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Windows 10 wipes your child safety settings if you upgrade from 7 or 8 (Family Features gone)
The Register ^ | Aug 5, 2015 | Gavin Clarke

Posted on 08/05/2015 10:32:36 PM PDT by dayglored

Are you a Windows 10 convert responsible for young computer users? Be on your guard. Child-friendly Family Features from Windows 7 and 8 won’t be recognised or accepted in the new operating system.

Rather, children using Windows 10 PCs are seen as standard users; no dedicated child-user account exists.

That means any existing age-related website controls, app and game restrictions, PC time limits, plus your ability to view recent activity, won’t work on Windows 10.

Adults must now create a completely new set of family settings through a long-winded procedure in Windows 10 that requires the child’s participation.

Microsoft had explained the new controls, here, but the details will be lost on many millions following Microsoft’s advice to run Windows 10 on existing PCs.

Even those getting early builds of Windows 10 got caught out. Those unaware their old settings won’t work now risk exposing children on Windows 10 to porn, violence and other online dangers once they’ve upgraded.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: familyfeatures; windows10; windowspinglist
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And exactly who thought this was a good idea???
1 posted on 08/05/2015 10:32:37 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
Windows 10 discards prior Win7/Win8 child protection settings ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

OOPS!!! WTF???

2 posted on 08/05/2015 10:33:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

3 posted on 08/05/2015 10:35:17 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

How can they FUBAR this release any more? I’m sure they’ll find something else they’ve overlooked in their rush to market.


4 posted on 08/05/2015 10:37:25 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: dayglored

WINBLOWS....


5 posted on 08/05/2015 10:45:15 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: dayglored

What a coincidence. My 14yo just pointed out to me tonight that I could upgrade to Windows 10. He showed me how to do it. I suppose that means he upgraded Windows on his computer.

And now I come here and see this article.


6 posted on 08/05/2015 10:47:11 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Ruh-roh.


7 posted on 08/05/2015 10:51:28 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

Are you seriously that dysfunctional?


8 posted on 08/05/2015 10:53:47 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: dayglored

Raising boys is a challenge...


9 posted on 08/05/2015 10:53:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Swordmaker
> ...in their rush to market...

Microsoft HAD to get something into people's hands after the flaming disaster of Win8. The Win8.1 patch was barely enough to keep the existing Win8 users from bailing back to Win7, or getting a Mac or Linux replacement.

That's how great software is done, don'tcha know? Take a bad situation, declare a release date, and then squeeze as much as possible in before the release date. So what if it isn't finished?

Defending Windows 10 and Microsoft, a spokesperson told us: “We will continue to roll out new Windows 10 Family features over time. We designed Windows 10 as a service, and we’ll keep listening to our customers. If there are ways to make improvements, we will do so.”
In other words, "So what if it isn't ready for release? We're releasing it and you can just suck it up, users!" I'm very disappointed, frankly. I had hopes of Win10 being a really great release. But they seem to keep stepping on their own... um, ding-dongs.

This particular gaffe is pretty egregious, IMO. Children are involved. It's one thing to screw up tens of millions of adults' mental balance by destroying what was arguably the world's most popular desktop UI for 15 years, replacing it with Fisher-Price blocks. It's entirely something else to drop parental control features, even with notice, but even that apparently was missing or inadequate as well in this case.

Just... damn!

10 posted on 08/05/2015 11:02:09 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
> Are you seriously that dysfunctional?

Ummm, 'scuse me?

11 posted on 08/05/2015 11:03:02 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

First three comments crapping about entering settings is a bit much?


12 posted on 08/05/2015 11:05:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
> First three comments crapping about entering settings is a bit much?

Oh, I see.

Well, the first was the obligatory "comment with original thread post" and I just expressed surprise that the protection omission was apparently intentional on MS's part.

The second was the Windows Ping List comment, in which the "Ooops WTF" remark was a throwaway.

Then I remembered my WTF-Cat pic that I stole from a long-ago FR thread on something else entirely, and tossed it in a comment for comic relief.

Hey, it was 1:30AM here and I spent 12 hours today fixing broken corporate servers. Maybe I was feeling a little punchy. Sorry you were offended, or whatever you were. Not intentional, I assure you.

13 posted on 08/05/2015 11:11:46 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored
Microsoft HAD to get something into people's hands after the flaming disaster of Win8.

whattabunchacrap.

W8 was fine, all they had to do for 8.1 was bring back a real W7(and beyond) start menu and ditch the start screen and they're golden. But they didn't.


14 posted on 08/05/2015 11:13:46 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
> ...crapping about entering settings...

I wouldn't have a gripe except that the "upgrade" should either a) migrate the settings from earlier version, or b) FORCE the user to go through the process of entering the new settings required to reinstate the protections (or explicitly opt out).

My criticism is that they discarded the protections and did not make it absolutely screamingly clear that they had done so. I think that's irresponsible and inexcusable. It's not about the small hassle of learning new settings/rules and setting them up. It's about the lack of warning.

But your mileage may vary...

15 posted on 08/05/2015 11:18:09 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

“It’s one thing to screw up tens of millions of adults’ mental balance by destroying what was arguably the world’s most popular desktop UI for 15 years, replacing it with Fisher-Price blocks.”

best description yet.


16 posted on 08/05/2015 11:18:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: 867V309
> W8 was fine,...

Okay, okay. Win8 THE UNDERLYING OPERATING SYSTEM was fine. We agree.

Win8 METRO UI on a non-touch desktop (the primary user base) sucked swamp water, and not even very well.

Okay, is that better?

17 posted on 08/05/2015 11:20:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

The Family Safety feature is still available. It got moved into Windows, whereas previously it was a seperate product you had to install. You do need to go back in and set it up again. Also, on my wife’s computer it didn’t uninstall the old family safety feature, but left it in a state aftet the upgrade where it would generate an error message every time she booted the computet. Annoying, but I think the feature will work better as part of the OS


18 posted on 08/05/2015 11:24:37 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: 867V309
> ...But they didn't.

Microsoft could have saved Win8 from being a losing proposition very easily, as you so accurately state. I sincerely wish they had done so.

But they didn't. And so it was a disaster in terms of acceptance and uptake. Even being forced down people's throats on new gear didn't save it from resounding rejection. It didn't make it to even a third of the user base of the version it was supposed to replace (Win7). And its representation in the overall Windows version mix barely exceed the active user base of the long-obsolete XP in the final month before it was officially replaced. That's hardly a success.

I truly hope Win10 gets straightened out and is successful. I would hate to see Windows disappear from the landscape. Much as I enjoy both Linux and OS X in the areas where they shine, there's nothing to replace Windows in the enterprise business world. So let's hope Win 10 picks up its dropped trousers and starts running.

19 posted on 08/05/2015 11:29:48 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: Pelham
“It’s one thing to screw up tens of millions of adults’ mental balance by destroying what was arguably the world’s most popular desktop UI for 15 years, replacing it with Fisher-Price blocks.”

Know what? Embrace the blocks. Sure, they look infantile, like the people they're aimed at.

That doesn't mean you can't configure them to your advantage. I deleted all the moronic "apps" and put shortcuts to my regular applications on the left side of the startscreen. Now it's easier when I want to switch applications in desktop to push the windows key and zap to the application from the startscreen.

Much faster than mousing around in the start menu.


20 posted on 08/05/2015 11:30:12 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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