- Politically-correct racial switchup of characters
- Actors playing characters are all ~ 18 years old
- Major movie promo tie-in at Dennys Restaurant, including this nonsense:
Posted on 08/07/2015 6:43:48 AM PDT by C19fan
Wait, a black family in America adopting a white baby?
Now it really IS a fantasy movie!
I really thought he was miscast in that. Sure, he had the physical size, but that was the only thing he had in common with the character, and that really isn’t the key to Kingpin’s character. D’Onofrio, who is nowhere near as physically impressive, really nailed the character.
Well, I’d say Fantastic Four movies are for kids, they have never come out with serious or “gritty” adult version of those.
Anyway, whoever said you needed to stop having fun or liking fun things when you grow up? I’m glad I never learned that rule, how boring would that kind of life be?
They turned The Ancient One into a white character. Of course they also changed him into a her. But Tilda Swinton is pretty awesome and has played some characters pretty similar to The Ancient One before. Really I say go for the best actor. Very few characters gain anything from their race, it’s just how the got drawn. I doubt a white Johnny would have suddenly made this movie watchable.
I did not recognize the guy, but I really don’t have a problem with. But no Asian superhero?
my thoughts exactly.
i’ve been a marvel fan since the 70s... and all the PC stuff is pushing me away.
The bit where he beheads the Russian with the car door was chilling...don't embarrass Fisk in front of a woman, I guess. 'Daredevil' on Netflix? Good stuff, with Punisher coming in Season 2.
“don’t embarrass Fisk in front of a woman, I guess”
Yeah, that scene was great, it showed him to be both psychologically sensitive, and a brutally violent psychopath at the same time. Tough trick to pull off!
“I guess. ‘Daredevil’ on Netflix? Good stuff, with Punisher coming in Season 2.”
Yeah, Punisher is confirmed, with the guy who played Shane on the Walking Dead cast for him. I think the costume maker will become Gladiator, and probably Bullseye will show up too. If I had to make a bet, Bullseye was the sniper who shot the cops outside the warehouse, but they just haven’t revealed him yet.
I am amazed that a comic book I enjoyed when I was 10 has become some crappy lame film 45 years later.
20th CF should just give me all the money they spent making this turd and I’ll go make an indie. Couldn’t be any worse. I mean CGI can only do so much, even with the Millenials.
I like the F4 from the last few years! why didn’t they just have a new adventure with them
To start all over agaiN with a whole new story? and it apprently sucks
But is he still the womanizer that Johnny Storm was. I can stand them giving a skin color change to a comic character, what I cannot stand is when the personality is butchered. I actually enjoyed Michael Clark Duncan (RIP) as the Kingpin. Why suspect that a man who owns a big business and throws these fabulous parties in NYC is a big time crime lord? Pretty much what the Kingpin did in Marvel Comics. But with Sebastian Shaw, they butchered the personality of the character (made him a mutant supremacist instead of a wealthy businessman pursuing more wealth), and they gave him the powers of the X-Men character Bishop (energy absorption) as opposed to converting energy into muscle power (comics). What’s funny is that the whole character Butchering in the X-Men movies is from the same studio that made this new Fantastic Four movie.
I actually enjoyed Duncan (RIP) as the Kingpin, the personality wasn’t butchered by him.
On the other side DC Comics has gotten quite a bit down and inappropriate as well, some of the basic concepts were interesting (What if Superman was in love with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane?) But a lot of that has gone down the drain (Batman/Catwoman relationship)
I picked up a number of e-comic “first issue” comics for free (Spiderman etc) when Comixology had a big promotion. Reading them now, I can sure see why they’d be engaging to a 10-year-old, but fail to translate to movie format _and_ satisfy the aforementioned as an adult: there’s a whole lot going on between a few frames of comic book that the young mind richly fills in and generously excuses, but which pseudo-live-action just cannot present & justify to adults. Of personal recent reading: the one-page (9-12 frames) of Spiderman racing around trying to rescue J. Jonah Jameson’s son’s about-to-crash space capsule is a compelling casual read on paper, but trying to fit that into the time-and-space reality portrayed in a movie - an impending crash in minutes of a craft traveling hundreds of miles per hour vs. our hero traveling hundreds of miles & engaging in multiple conversations in what must take hours - _just_doesn’t_work_. Ditto any number of comic books we read while young: the time-and-space realities of the cinematic world can’t be glossed over like ink-on-paper can. Never mind all the other cultural changes which allowed then what is laughable or offensive now, or the technological changes that make the amazing from half-a-century ago into what is mundane, moot, or impossible today.
FWIW, on top of all that I never did get what was so great about F4 (as child or adult). Seemed a laudable attempt at a conceptual franchise that just didn’t work out as the genre matured.
The animated Fantastic Four was fun for me in the late 80s. Beyond that, the movies were BORING. I mean boring.
What about Frozone?
The Incredibles will always be a favorite to me from what Disney has made, not only is it for a variety of ages, but it totally parodies the overused comics tropes and has actual superhero families, a frontier that DC and Marvel are unwilling to go, except in Standalone stories such as Kingdom Come, Dark Knight Strikes Again, Spider-Girl, etc.
It may have been a bit difficult with Johnny Storm’s actor now being too busy with Captain America / Avengers movies to stay with the previous cast (Chris Evans).
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