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Has ‘Empire’ already jumped the shark?
NYPOST ^ | 10/15 | rorke

Posted on 10/16/2015 5:32:58 AM PDT by RummyChick

The meteoric rise of “Empire” was the TV story of last season — restoring network TV’s reputation as a place where viewers could go for exciting quality entertainment after years of decline.

Debuting in midseason with 13 episodes — and pulling in huge numbers, which grew each week — “Empire” was quickly renewed and given a slot on the fall schedule. Fox also increased the show’s number of episodes this season to 18.

But the rush to Season 2 may have hurt “Empire.” Four episodes in, it has become predictable and stuck in dramatic second gear.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: alllivesmatter; hatewhitey
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You can't alienate a big part of your white audience with this blacklivesmatter crap and stay Number 1
1 posted on 10/16/2015 5:32:58 AM PDT by RummyChick
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I live in a pretty diverse area and TBH... I don’t know one white person (adult or teen) that watches Empire. I thought it was pretty much a black viewed tv show. Not making a rude comment but I just figured that the majority of white folks watch some shows and black folks watch others.


2 posted on 10/16/2015 5:36:22 AM PDT by momtothree
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I wonder if there isn’t another aspect to kill it from the inside since one of the actors spoke out against the gay PC they’re instilling in the show....


3 posted on 10/16/2015 5:36:58 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: RummyChick

I work for the fed gov in Wash, DC... EVERYBODY here talks about that show. They’re all atwitter.


4 posted on 10/16/2015 5:37:04 AM PDT by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: RummyChick

I have never watched it to tell you the truth. I watched “Scandal” and “How to get away with Murder”, but I grew tired quickly of the “black” mystique, not to mention the prevalent homosexuality.


5 posted on 10/16/2015 5:38:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Apparently, they've also managed to alienate some of the black audience with all the gay content.

Sorry, folks. In Hollywood's eyes, queer > black.

6 posted on 10/16/2015 5:42:06 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Gaffer

This week they made a video which was themed about black power and the Black Panthers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P8uOufdE6M

It hacked me off and all I could do was roll my eyes and say..can I make the same video and Show WHITEY POWER

Such a double standard.


7 posted on 10/16/2015 5:45:23 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I just don’t identify with these “black” shows. The reason is that I don’t hate white people or have some grudge/ax/angle to grind. Just don’t have anything in common with them.


8 posted on 10/16/2015 5:46:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RummyChick

watched about 3 minutes of one show to see what all the hopla was about.

*puke*

not interested.


9 posted on 10/16/2015 5:47:11 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: momtothree

I’m an old, white, man and I watched it the first season, thought it was great. It had top notch talent, was well produced, very entertaining drama. Then they started telling me how to think and what to think by pushing a social agenda and screwed up a really good show.

Taraji Henson and Terrence Howard are great talents and deserve a better vehicle than what this show is becoming.


10 posted on 10/16/2015 5:48:58 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: Thorliveshere

Apparently the 2 leads Cookie and Lucius hate each other in real life.


11 posted on 10/16/2015 5:50:14 AM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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I hardly watch any TV, and I almost never watched these hyped-up "must see" dramas that much of the population seems to be enthralled with (the only one I even took a passing look at on the recommendation of a friend was Game of Thrones and I could neither stomach nor see the attraction of it). The pervasive perversion and sick-thrill gore so many of these shows rely on makes me queasy. I don't mind some violence and toned-down debauchery when it serves the plot, but it seldom serves anything in these modern shows except as a end unto itself.

BBC used to make some good period films, but I don't know if they still make anything worth seeing. I've been meaning to check out The Last Kingdom, and if anyone has seen it let me know how it is (and if it diverges from Cornwell's awesome novels in any but the most minor of ways, I don't to see a second of it).

12 posted on 10/16/2015 5:51:41 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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You are not old, jstaff... you are way more hip than me. :) It is disappointing when you find a show and the first season is so good and then they fumble the football in the second season.


13 posted on 10/16/2015 5:53:10 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: RummyChick

Sophomore slump.

They are so high on their supposed genius that they start phoning it in for season 2 because they think they got the magic formula for perpetual ratings success. I’ll bet that many of the actors and writers are too busy going to parties, giving interviews, fielding offers for other projects to notice that they just recycled all of the stuff from season one.

It might also be that shows that rise to high ratings in their first season puts the fear of the almighty (read that as the studio bigwigs) in the minds of the producers and writers, making them too afraid to monkey too much with the winning “formula”, potentially endangering the ratings, but ending up producing a boring program anyway that is too safe that turns off their 1st season viewers.


14 posted on 10/16/2015 5:55:13 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Well it is still doing a million times better then the closest show. NCIS is gotten pathetic ratings this year. Actually everything has except Empire, The Big Bang Theory and Modern Family but even they are falling.


15 posted on 10/16/2015 5:55:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: jstaff

I really liked the one scene where the thug son is in a restaurant and starts ripping on Obama.


16 posted on 10/16/2015 5:56:30 AM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: Gaffer

HTGAWM was so overtly gay I dont think even want to find out if they get caught in the end.


17 posted on 10/16/2015 5:56:50 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Australia made a period show with Essie Davis called Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries that has gotten worldwide attention. I enjoyed it. Light hearted whimsical show based in the late 20’s.

On netflix. I then watched Essie Davis in Babadook that many thought should have gotten Oscar Nominated but because it was a horror flick it was ignored. All throughout the movie I kept thinking..I can’t believe this is Miss Fisher.


18 posted on 10/16/2015 5:57:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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If you are sick of two black shows mystique. Can you imagine how horrid it is for Blacks who have to sit thought 90 percent to white mystique. Glad you are finding out that blacks don’t have it that easy. Good lesson for you.


19 posted on 10/16/2015 5:57:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: chae

Oh my God. Why did you hear that lie? Cookie refused to do the part unless Lucius was the lead man. They knew each other from a movie back in the day.


20 posted on 10/16/2015 5:59:08 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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