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2015 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX - LIVE THREAD
10/22/2015 | Chode

Posted on 10/22/2015 7:45:48 PM PDT by Chode

Circuit of the Americas at Austin

First Grand Prix 2012

Number of Laps 56

Circuit Length 5.513KM

Race Distance 308.405KM

Lap Record 1:39.347 by Sebastian Vettel (2012)



TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix
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1 posted on 10/22/2015 7:45:48 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode; al_c; arbitrary.squid; arderkrag; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; biff; bobby.223; bobt7818; ...
UP...!!!

2 posted on 10/22/2015 7:47:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Sebastian Vettel handed 10-place grid penalty at United States GP

Lewis Hamilton’s chances of securing the world title at Sunday’s US Grand Prix have been boosted by an engine penalty for Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel.

The German, 28, will be demoted 10 places on the grid after using more than the permitted number of engines.

Hamilton, 30, will win the title if he outscores Vettel by nine points and Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg by two.

If Hamilton wins in Austin with Vettel below second, the Briton will clinch his third world championship.

However, if Hamilton is beaten by either driver, the title race will remain open until at least the race in Mexico next weekend.

“If you look at this race isolated it is not great news, but it was always the plan to have a fresh engine here,” said Vettel.

“The plan was to have maximum power in every race. We take a hit here but you have to see the positive in that we were able to make big steps and not just the penalty.”

Vettel will take a 10-place penalty for using a fifth engine - one more than is allowed under Formula 1 rules - while Ferrari team-mate Kimi Raikkonen has been given a similar punishment.

Meanwhile, Fernando Alonso said Hamilton had already attained the status of one of the greatest drivers of all time.

“He is one of the best in the sport and I think there are more titles to come,” said Alonso, who has also won the world championship twice.

“He had some ups and downs but the good thing about Lewis is that when he didn’t have the best car he still won some races, maybe not the championship but still winning some races and fighting for the championship.

“That is something maybe not everyone did.”

Alonso and Hamilton have consistently cited each other as their biggest rival, the driver for whom they have the most respect.

Asked whether Hamilton could go on to match or beat the five titles won by Juan Manuel Fangio or even Michael Schumacher’s all-time record of seven, Alonso said: “That is difficult to tell. It depends a lot in the car.

“He won in the second year and then until he arrived at Mercedes he could retire maybe with one title.

“Maybe he can win no six if no-one can beat Mercedes in the next years. It is difficult today. But rating a driver takes much more than a title.”

In his BBC Sport column, Hamilton said he was not contemplating wrapping up the title this weekend.

Mercedes team-mate Rosberg still has an outside chance of winning the drivers’ championship, but is 73 points behind Hamilton.

“I’ve got nothing to lose - I want to win,” said Rosberg. “I have the opportunity to win and it’s a great target to have. I’m focused. That’s it.

“I’m still aiming for first and that’s what I’m thinking about, even if I know it’s difficult and I need a lot of luck.”

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/34610947


3 posted on 10/22/2015 7:48:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode
Weather will likely be a problem. KVUE shows a 100% change of rain on Saturday with flooding likely, and a 90% chance on Sunday with flooding possible.
4 posted on 10/22/2015 8:03:29 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas
wonderful
5 posted on 10/22/2015 8:10:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode

I live in Austin and must miss the Grand Prix this year


6 posted on 10/22/2015 8:25:27 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: FourPeas

First race this year on the wet tires, then?


7 posted on 10/22/2015 8:33:09 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag necessary?)
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To: lormand
well that sucks...
8 posted on 10/22/2015 8:37:42 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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What sucks is I spent the better part of 35 years I lived in Texas in that area and then after I move they turn the Gumbo Mud pit into a fine Road Course...

Just My fluckingluck...

9 posted on 10/23/2015 6:20:19 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1
that's what used to be there?
10 posted on 10/23/2015 2:51:36 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode

First Practice
Circuit Of Americas, 23 October 2015
Driver Fastest Lap
1 Rosberg 1:53.989
2 Kvyat 1:55.224
3 Ricciardo 1:55.592
4 Sainz Jnr 1:55.667
5 Hamilton 1:55.693
6 Vettel 1:55.710
7 Verstappen 1:55.969
8 Raikkonen 1:56.326
9 Alonso 1:56.839
10 Bottas 1:56.866
11 Massa 1:57.081
12 Perez 1:57.139
13 Button 1:57.495
14 Hulkenberg 1:57.518
15 Grosjean 1:58.319
16 Marciello 1:59.431
17 Ericsson 1:59.743
18 Rossi 2:01.154
19 Stevens 2:01.907
20 Maldonado


11 posted on 10/23/2015 3:12:59 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Yup, Gumbo Black Muddy Clay Muck w/IIRC Soybeans. At least when they Decommisioned Bergstrom AFB they moved the Austin Airport to there instead of starting from scratch out east on Hwy 290 past Manor.

The Circuit of the Americas is just South of the Airport

12 posted on 10/24/2015 6:14:08 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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Welcome to Central Texas Weather (The Local’s just call it a Turd Floater)

At the moment on the TV they have just started FP3 and most likely Article 36.2 of the Regs will be used to set the Grid.

They told Drivers to Post a time if possible but it’s up to Teams/Drivers to make a run if they like.

Hammy is slip-sliding away.

Very BAD CROSSWINDS in addition to the rain!!!

Hammy just got “BOX,BOX,BOX You have damage to the Front wing”

They may start Q in a few. Off to pay the bills (commercial)


13 posted on 10/24/2015 9:42:03 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1
i just hope they get the flag... i don't ever remember a race being canceled
14 posted on 10/24/2015 7:38:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode

Quali at 10 eastern on CNBC.


15 posted on 10/25/2015 6:24:41 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

thx...

the Grid

Qualifying results - 2015 American Formula 1 Grand Prix
Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes 01:56.824 16
2. L. Hamilton Mercedes 01:56.929 14
3. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:57.969 16
4. D. Kvyat Red Bull 01:58.434 16
5. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:58.596 13
6. S. Perez Force India 01:59.210 16
7. N. Hulkenberg Force India 01:59.333 16
8. K. Raikkonen Ferrari 01:59.703 15
9. F. Massa Williams 01:59.999 16
10. M. Verstappen Toro Rosso 02:00.199 17
11. F. Alonso McLaren 02:00.265 16
12. V. Bottas Williams 02:00.334 16
13. R. Grosjean Lotus 02:00.595 17
14. J. Button McLaren 02:01.193 16
15. P. Maldonado Lotus 02:01.604 17
16. M. Ericsson Sauber 02:02.212 9
17. F. Nasr Sauber 02:03.194 9
18. A. Rossi Manor 02:04.176 9
19. W. Stevens Manor 02:04.526 9
20. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso 02:07.304 3


16 posted on 10/25/2015 8:19:47 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt

Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt are discussing shaking up the engine supply in F1

24 October 2015 Last updated at 19:23 GMT

United States GP: F1 bosses to propose cheap engine alternative

United States Grand Prix

Venue: Circuit of the Americas, Austin, Texas Dates: 23-25 October

Coverage: Live text and radio commentary of all three days, plus BBC TV highlights of qualifying and the race. Full details here.

Formula 1 bosses Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt are pushing a plan that could kill the turbo hybrid engines introduced last year.

Ecclestone and Todt are working towards a cheap customer turbo engine under an 'equivalence formula' in 2017.

The road-car manufacturers in F1 want to stick with the turbo hybrids and have rejected plans to introduce a cost cap on the engines for customers.

The risk is the rules would be adjusted to make their units uncompetitive.

Ecclestone, F1's commercial supremo, has long been an opponent of the complex turbo hybrid engines, which the manufacturers wanted introduced because they mirror development in the road-car field.

Mercedes and Ferrari

Mercedes and Ferrari have made the most competitive turbo-hybrid engines

Todt, the president of governing body the FIA, was instrumental in introducing the engines but is now working with Ecclestone on the alternative plan.

Top-level sources say their concern is three-fold:

Todt and Ecclestone will present the plan publicly as an attempt to provide cheap customer engines to teams - the plan is to price the engines at six million euros for a year's supply. This is about a third of the price of the cheapest turbo hybrid customer deal.

They are poised to begin a tender process to find a company to supply the engines.

The engine architecture - a 2.2-litre V6 twin turbo - is the same as that used in IndyCar racing in the the US, where one of the suppliers is the British company Ilmor, which used to be involved in F1.

Graham Rahal, driver of the 15 Steak 'n Shake Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda Dallara during the Verizon IndyCar Series GoPro Grand Prix of Sonoma at Sonoma Raceway on August 30

The equivalent engine would be very similar to the one used in the US Indycar series

It is likely a basic energy recovery system would be fitted to the engines for F1.

But insiders say Ecclestone and Todt are planning to tweak the equivalence formula to ensure that the cheaper engines are more powerful than the more advanced turbo hybrids, which are governed by two separate fuel restrictions - on total allowance and fuel flow.

The cars with cheaper engines would be at a significant weight disadvantage at the start of races due to the amount of fuel on board, but this could be compensated for by increasing the power of the engines. Or perhaps by reintroducing refuelling - a move that has been suggested by Ecclestone.

The move would put manufacturers in an impossible position - they could continue to run the engines they currently use but risk being unable to win races.

And it comes as Mercedes have refused to supply Red Bull with engines next year, while Ferrari have offered only a supply of 2015 engines to the former world champions, whose boss, Dietrich Mateschitz, is close to Ecclestone.

It is conceivable that Ecclestone and Todt would back down if the manufacturers agreed to supply engines to teams at a more affordable price and were less restrictive in terms of who they chose to supply them to.

The plan is said by sources to be the brainchild of former FIA president Max Mosley, a long-time associate of Ecclestone.

Mosley and Ecclestone conducted a joint interview with a German television station last week in which Mosley said the need for an independent engine supplier was "acute".

Mosley has long championed ideas in which teams prepared to operate according to less expensive rules would be given technical advantages over those who preferred to stick with the existing rules and spend what they liked.

Mosley said in the interview: "You could give the small teams greater technical freedom in return for operating within a budget.

"Then teams could come in and be competitive. The big teams would complain, and we would say if you want to operate for the same budget you could have the same freedoms. It would be difficult to convince them but in the structure of F1 they could be outvoted."

United States GP practice results

United States GP coverage details


17 posted on 10/25/2015 11:04:26 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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2 Acorns per mile.

18 posted on 10/25/2015 12:03:17 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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lol
19 posted on 10/25/2015 12:15:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Pirelli says the crossover is 1:48 but they are still at 1:57 and talking about slicks


20 posted on 10/25/2015 12:23:56 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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