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Is Malware all that Bad, Really?
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| Wednesday 23 September 2015 (AUS)
| Stephen Withers
Posted on 11/27/2015 7:10:49 PM PST by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer; 867V309; rlmorel
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Wait until you come across a website that pops up a little window asking you to "subscribe",... I'm getting truly sick of the ones that OVERLAY a part of whatever I want to read, and won't go away even when you acknowledge and dismiss them.
I certainly recognize that the content pages have to be paid for, fine, I'll acknowledge their ad, but then it should GO THE HELL AWAY.
And this isn't just on Windows -- the same thing happens on my Linux box, and occasionally on my Mac, and eventually I have to just give up because the damned ad won't let me read the content -- so I stop going to that site.
And they lose me entirely as a visitor. A fat lot of good their "ad" did for them.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:00:33 PM PST
by
dayglored
("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
To: rlmorel
You’d better never update, then. Seriesly.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:02:20 PM PST
by
bigbob
To: Utilizer; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
Good discussion of adware and other types of malware ... PING!
You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".
Thanks to Utilizer for the ping!!
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:02:45 PM PST
by
dayglored
("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
To: dayglored
It’s really sad that you don’t know how to turn off scripting, or are too lazy to try.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:03:10 PM PST
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: 867V309
So if you remove Java what would that mean as far as what it’s used for?
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:08:37 PM PST
by
caww
To: 867V309
What is scripting and how do you turn it off...and if you do what do you loose?
Not everyone is aware of what can, should or beneficial to do to eliminate “stuff”......I use ad block and ghostery but some even get by these.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:12:21 PM PST
by
caww
To: 867V309
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It's really sad that you don't know how to turn off scripting, or are too lazy to try. LOL. Not sad or lazy at all. There's a third option. I use my machines only fractionally for pleasure and entertainment -- mostly I do work on them, both at work and at home, and disabling scripting gets in the way of the work I do. It gets really tiresome to be turning it off and on and off and on so I just leave it enabled because I have to get the work done, whereas the pleasure browsing is the less important function.
I suppose if I were going to dedicate a machine to browsing for entertainment purposes only, I'd disable scripting and leave it that way, but other than FReeping I actually don't do much non-work on the computers.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:26:38 PM PST
by
dayglored
("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
To: caww
So if you remove Java what would that mean as far as what itâs used for?
What is scripting and how do you turn it off...and if you do what do you loose?
Great questions!
First, Java and JavaScript are two entirely, separate and distinct coding protocols. JavaScript is a human readable code, downloaded to your browsers webpage, either directly in the page or linked to a .js (JavaScript) file. Java is a compiled code, not human readable and above my pay grade.
There is, to my knowledge, only one sensible way to deal with JS, and that is the Firefox addon NoScript. Sad fact is, sometimes you HAVE TO HAVE JS to make a site work, and sometimes you HAVE TO NOT HAVE IT. Solution: NoScript. It lets you enable or disable JS on a per-site basis, and remembers your settings. Problem solved.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:26:53 PM PST
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: rlmorel
I have an extremely negative view of adware. So do I.
It pops up in your face on a web page, so...you go to click on it to get rid of it. I never click on pop-ups, since I don't know how they were designed. I don't know if clicking top right X in the popup will close the popup or will launch some new unwanted process.
Most popups go away if the page is reloaded. That's all I ever do to get rid of a popup. If a popup reloads when the page reloads, I just forget about reading that page.
I have Flash set on Ask to Activate, I have Java disabled in browsers, I use an ad blocker, and for some sites I use YesScript to block Javascript.
It keeps the annoyances down to an acceptable level.
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posted on
11/27/2015 9:54:56 PM PST
by
TChad
To: 867V309
There is, to my knowledge, only one sensible way to deal with JS, and that is the Firefox addon NoScript. YesScript disables Javascript in websites that you specify in a blacklist.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/yesscript/
The author of YesScript says:
YesScript lets you make a blacklist of sites that aren't allowed to run JavaScript. Use YesScript on sites that annoy you or hog your system resources. One click to the icon in the status bar turns scripts on or off for the current site. Unlike NoScript, YesScript does absolutely nothing to improve your security. I believe that Firefox is secure enough by default and that blocking all scripts by default is paranoia. YesScript strives to remove hassles from your browsing experience, rather than add them.
I thinks that's a good evaluation. I found NoScript to be unusable and YesScript to usually be helpful. Some sites won't load with Javascript blocked, but most will.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:09:52 PM PST
by
TChad
To: Utilizer
Please give me the positive side of malware?
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:12:31 PM PST
by
Deagle
To: 867V309
I’ve seen plenty of them on all kinds of sites. When I call them kinetic, that is overstating it. The motion is often subtle, which is what is really irritating.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:19:03 PM PST
by
rlmorel
("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
To: TChad
I found NoScript to be unusable
Just browse to a site. If it doesn't work and you have to have it, hover over the NoScript icon, click "allow all this page" and refresh the page. What's so hard?
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:19:22 PM PST
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: rlmorel
Iâve seen plenty of them on all kinds of sites.
That's because you allow scripting in your browser.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:20:51 PM PST
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: TChad
"...I don't know if clicking top right X in the popup will close the popup or will launch some new unwanted process..." Yes. I do it on a site I know is not the kind of site that is malicious because they don't want to drive you off, but I am with you 100% on that on sites I am unfamiliar with.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:21:22 PM PST
by
rlmorel
("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
To: Utilizer
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:21:30 PM PST
by
Mozilla
To: 867V309
What's so hard? It just seemed like too much work. It was always blocking stuff I didn't want blocked. However, it has been a long time since I used it, and maybe I should give it another shot.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:23:35 PM PST
by
TChad
To: TChad
Since NoScript remembers your settings, it gets easier very fast.
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posted on
11/27/2015 10:26:51 PM PST
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: rlmorel
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posted on
11/28/2015 1:32:44 AM PST
by
Paladin2
(my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
To: doc1019
Absolutely. Whether harmless or not, I didn’t ask for it to be installed so out it goes.
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posted on
11/28/2015 6:10:19 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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