We have seen many people claiming that all of the dead were shot by police. The question about these four is whether the police shootings were justified.
I would quibble with "many". A few is more accurate. I have often posted to debunk such, the fact that (per Chief Brent Stroman), his men were sitting in their cars when the first shots were fired. With all they claim (after the fact) about what they suspected was going down, that seems a very lackadaisical posture to assume.
The question about these four is whether the police shootings were justified.
Yes. There's that. And also the matter of probable cause, excessive bail, property seizures, speedy trial, gag orders....
The police shot 5 people, four of whom died. They say they only fired 12 rounds. 2 of the four dead only had wounds from the police style rifles, 2 others also had other bullet injuries (preceding or following the police fire).
One was a man armed with a chain, which by itself would be a threatening figure but he was combating several persons with knives and possibly brass knuckles. They do not appear to have been shot. Odd considering those are also forbidden weapons and they did not seek safety, rather engaging in battle with the man (the video does not appear to be strictly self defense).
If the man with the chain was menacing people in a parking lot by himself (random act of violence, totally away from that day or biker related incident) there would likely be a warning to ‘drop your weapon’ and some sort of negotiation before opening fire. He was hit several times and bled out. The other combatants may have ‘surrendered’ after seeing this man taken down but they were willing combatants in battle.
One biker who shot another biker dead does not appear to be among those killed by the police. Odd that a guy with a chain is considered more of a threat to society than someone who’d shoot a guy in the head while the victim is laying down on the ground after already having his head stomped.
These details come from the Daily News article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3357599/New-police-footage-shows-chaos-erupted-outside-Texas-restaurant-hundreds-bikers-used-guns-chains-defend-massive-melee.html
If the police were trying to restore safety and order, how many of the biker gunmen did they shoot? How many biker gunmen did the bikers shoot? How many persons other than those with guns did the police shoot? 9 persons dead, 20 persons injured from gun wounds.
We have seen a few claim that.
A larger group (of which I am a part) claim that a fight among a few bikers at a political rally turned into a massacre when some of the law enforcement panicked and fired indiscriminately.
In earlier times if law enforcement knew a few bad apples planned to make hay at a public function they detained some of the parties involved to head it off. Instead law enforcement in Waco set up a sniper ambush at a crowded restaurant. The Waco authorities have only belatedly realized why the old way is a better course of action.