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Microsoft steps up Windows 10 nagging (MS Sez, Choose One: "Now" or "Tonight". Wait, what?)
The Register ^ | Dec 15, 2015 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 12/16/2015 6:30:12 PM PST by dayglored

Fire up any computer running Windows 7 or 8 and you'll be used to a message or three inviting you to upgrade to Windows 10. But the latest pop-up screen doesn't even give you a choice.

The large pop-up screen, which first appeared over the weekend, gives users the option of upgrading straight away or ... that evening. Users can still opt out by clicking on the red 'X' in the top right corner of the window, but less savvy computer users (part of Redmond's core market segments) might not figure that out.

This is not a new idea; it's called the assumptive sell and has been in pop-up ads for years. But it's not the kind of tactic you'd expect from a respectable firm like Microsoft - or at least, not until Windows 10 came along.

When Microsoft announced in January that Windows 10 upgrades would be free for users of versions 7 and 8 in the first 12 months after release, many people were pleased. But as time has gone on it has become clear that Windows users aren't being offered the upgrade, so much as having it rammed down their throats.

Besides the pop-ups, Microsoft has already added the Windows 10 upgrade as an "optional" update in its monthly Patch Tuesday cycle. But early next year that will be changed to a "recommended" update, meaning that those who have set the patching cycle to Automatic will download the new OS by default.

This is partly behind predictions from analysts about how Windows 10 upgrades will bloom next year. That's something Microsoft will be praying for, especially since Windows 10 installations have been lagging of late.

Microsoft had no comment on the new pop-up practices, referring us instead to an earlier blog post on the matter that states:

"Windows Update is the trusted, logical location for our most important updates, and adding Windows 10 here is another way we will make it easy for you to find your upgrade. Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose to continue."

The latest pop-up screen is yet another tactic by Microsoft to increase updates, but you have to wonder where the line is between helpful prodding and infuriating nagging.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; nag; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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Do you get the feeling maybe they're not "making their numbers" and need to spin the crank a little harder?
1 posted on 12/16/2015 6:30:12 PM PST by dayglored
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
Windows 10 Now Or Tonight, Right? ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 12/16/2015 6:31:10 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

This is funny... and I wonder if it’s real, or a sneak link to somewhere else. Someone ought to check the links.

PS—W10 works great if your computer is only a year or two old.


3 posted on 12/16/2015 6:32:51 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Win10 has been more stable for me than Win7.
I’m no MS plant. Just stating a fact.


4 posted on 12/16/2015 6:34:33 PM PST by WKTimpco
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To: dayglored

Uninstall and then hide the update for KB3035583

I had to do that to stop the Windows 10 nagging on my Win 7 machine.


5 posted on 12/16/2015 6:36:26 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Pearls Before Swine
> I wonder if it's real, or a sneak link to somewhere else. Someone ought to check the links.

Here's Microsoft's blog post.

6 posted on 12/16/2015 6:36:46 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: WKTimpco

Me no plant, neither.

It makes it easier to find many settings of interest to the non-administrator type of user. And, it’s rock stable. I’ve had memory leaks on a few programs, but that’s not an OS problem. I don’t think I’ve had a blue screen in the several months that I’ve used it.


7 posted on 12/16/2015 6:36:51 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dayglored

The next Microsoft update will replace every “7” or “8” on your PC with a “10”. So 7+8 will equal 20 instead of 15. ;-)

If operating systems were like ice cream, Windows would be vanilla, Linux would be 31 Flavors.


8 posted on 12/16/2015 6:37:00 PM PST by r_barton
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To: dayglored

DO NOT UPGRADE UNLESS YOU ARE 100% SURE YOUR SOFTWARE WILL WORK!!!

My computer and OS are the least of my expenses. I am a design engineer and a recovering aerospace engineer. I had one of my laptops upgrade to windows 10 about 3 months ago. Everything worked just perfect. All my CAD CAM CAE FEA software was just fine. Until last week when WIN 10 shoved a non optional update and now none of them work.

The cost to get new software (and as of yet NONE of mine are supported) is in the $8500 range PER computer.

Luckily it was a win 8.1 (I despise by the way) and I can restore the computer to factory mode. Everything worked great until the 30 day option to uninstall Windows 10 expired (of course).

Not Happy.


9 posted on 12/16/2015 6:37:11 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: dayglored

I had this pop up on my Win7 machine about a month ago. I just X’ed out, and it has not returned.

The constant upgrade reminders in the system tray were bad enough (until I removed them); but this is way too intrusive, and misleading for the less savvy.


10 posted on 12/16/2015 6:37:14 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: WKTimpco

My daughter’s computer was upgraded. I then had to set a whole bunch of settings to keep it from sharing every moment with Microsoft - and I don’t trust it not to do so anyways. I’m going to switch an old laptop to Linux to see if I like it.

All updates are shut off on my Windows 8.1 laptop.


11 posted on 12/16/2015 6:38:55 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: dayglored

microsoft has been flicking these boogers on my screen for a few months


12 posted on 12/16/2015 6:44:02 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: dayglored
But early next year that will be changed to a "recommended" update, meaning that those who have set the patching cycle to Automatic will download the new OS by default.

Well, I'm glad I saw this warning, I just changed my update settings to manual.

I don't want Win10 yet, waiting for some more positive feedback from you tech nerds.

13 posted on 12/16/2015 6:45:51 PM PST by PROCON (It's not islamophobia, it's islamonausea)
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To: sten
flicking these boogers on my screen for a few months

LOL, me too, interesting way of putting it.

14 posted on 12/16/2015 6:47:16 PM PST by PROCON (It's not islamophobia, it's islamonausea)
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To: Elderberry

Did the exact same thing and worked well. I read later that Windows may override this and force the popup to show up again. Hasn’t happened yet, but keeping an eye out for it.


15 posted on 12/16/2015 6:47:31 PM PST by Mean Daddy
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To: Organic Panic
DO NOT UPGRADE UNLESS YOU ARE 100% SURE YOUR SOFTWARE WILL WORK!!!

I have a several very expensive graphic, audio and video editing programs on my Win 7 and no way am I going to take a chance on these programs maybe working on Win 10.

16 posted on 12/16/2015 6:49:24 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: dayglored

microsoft’s nagware doesn’t know ‘no’ means ‘no’

they’re trying to ‘rape’ my system every week


17 posted on 12/16/2015 6:50:36 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: WKTimpco

I upgraded an old netbook - Win7 “Starter” with only 1MB RAM.

Not only is the netbook more stable but noticeably faster, too.

My current Win8.1 Ultrabook is next on upgrade schedule.


18 posted on 12/16/2015 6:50:52 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: dayglored

I run 2 pcs on Win 8.1 and have never seen the upgrade nag screen on either one.


19 posted on 12/16/2015 6:53:22 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Win10 64bit in a VirtualBox runs way slower than Win7 32 bit in a VirtualBox on the same 6yr old box hosted by Linux Mint 17.2 64 bit (which works GREAT!).


20 posted on 12/16/2015 6:54:53 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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