Posted on 01/12/2016 10:29:09 PM PST by RC one
Edited on 01/13/2016 12:11:17 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Donald Trump is actually right about something: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not eligible to be president or vice president of the United States.
Cruz is, of course, a U.S. citizen. As he was born in Canada, he is not natural-born. His mother, however, is an American, and Congress has provided by statute for the naturalization of children born abroad to citizens. Because of the senator’s parentage, he did not have to follow the lengthy naturalization process that aliens without American parents must undergo. Instead, Cruz was naturalized at birth. This provision has not always been available. For example, there were several decades in the 19th century when children of Americans born abroad were not given automatic naturalization.
Many of our forefathers were not born in America. that's why they included in Article II, section 1, paragraph 5 the clause "or citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution".
It was because they recognized that by being born somewhere other than on US soil, they themselves were not Natural Born Citizens and it obviously would have been preposterous to have excluded themselves from being eligible. they were our forefathers after all.
Ted Cruz is a citizen He was not, however, a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution.
He is not a Natural Born Citizen.
He is not eligible to Be Preident of the United States.
Cruz was BORNE INTO THE U.S.A. ;-)
Washington Post isn’t fit to catch doggie droppings.
- Trump before he started trailing Cruz in Iowa
Just this week I’ve heard Trey Gowdy and Rush intentionally confuse the question as, “Is Cruz a citizen?”
Of course he is.
The question is, “Is he a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution?”
Surprised at the Constitutional conservatives chucking it when it’s inconvenient for them politically.
Maybe. But Ted Cruz isn’t eligible to be POTUS.
Obama's mother was 1 year shy of the age for the birth status to be automatic citizenship.
Do if obama was really born in America - why has not a legitimate birth certificate never been produced? Why all this issues with his social security number?
This is the conclusion I have come to after reading everything I could on the issue. And I think that unfortunately Cruz knows this also but has conveniently decided to argue the other side now that he is running.
Very interesting article here on that subject:
http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams300.htm
Why did our forefathers say “or citizens at the time of the adoption of this constitution”?
We did find out the last few days Cruz’s mother was, no doubt, born in the United States and, despite appearing in the voter roles, she never became a Canadian citizen, per Cruz.
Here’s a summary of the issues:
Cruz is not remotely a natural born citizen. He was born IN CANADA TO TWO CANADIAN PARENTS.
That’s right, his father — who fought WITH CASTRO — moved to socialist Canada with Cruz’ American mother, and they BOTH became Canadian citizens four years before Ted was born. They both lived and worked in Canada for EIGHT YEARS.
A couple of questions here... Did his mother continue paying U.S. taxes while there? As a U.S. citizen, she would have to. Do you think by marrying a COMMUNIST she might have objected to U.S. foreign policy like 40,000 Americans who moved to Canada from 1965-1975 and renounced their American citizenship? Also, why did Ted hang onto his Canadian citizenship for so many years? Was this patriotic 100% no doubt about it natural born citizen visiting Cuba when it was illegal for most Americans to visit the Axis of Evil country?
Now to the meat of the eligibility question. George Romney was never the nominee, so it didn’t become an issue. Goldwater was grandfathered in like the founders. Arizona was a U.S. territory, and so was the Panama Canal, except McCain missed the window by a few months. His issue was he was born before it was officially a territory. So, Congress met to discuss his eligibility, which WAS an issue.
It was an issue for Obama, or else why the fuss about whether he was born in Kenya? In fact, the Supreme Court ruled in Rogers v Bellei, Montana v Kennedy, Zimmer v Acheson, Wong Kim Ark, etc. The foreign-born children of American citizens are naturalized by an act of Congress, not a natural born citizen. Cruz knows he is ineligible to be president.
State of Delaware Vital Records says, no record of Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson birth exist. Ted Cruz’s mother does not have a US birth certificate.
FACTUAL CRUZ CITIZENSHIP TIMELINE
(Everything presented in this timeline is a matter of public record. All of it is based upon publicly reported events, public statements made by Rafael Cruz, Ted Cruz, officials with the Elect Ted movement or US and Canadian officials.”
1957 - After working as a teen to help Fidel Castro gain power in Cuba, and being imprisoned for his actions by the Batista regime, Cuban Rafael Cruz applies for admittance to the University of Te’as as a foreign student and enters the US on a four year student visa to attend four years of college. He is a Cuban citizen attending a US college on a foreign student visa obtained through the US Consulate in Havana.
1961-1962 - After graduating college at the University of Texas, and upon the expiration of his foreign student visa, Cruz Sr. applied for and received “political asylum” and was issued a “green card.” A green card is a permit to reside and work in the United States, without becoming a “citizen” of the United States, in this case, under political asylum from Castro’s Cuba. His citizenship status was that of a Cuban national living and working in the United States, under a green card work permit. According to US laws, the “green card” holder must maintain permanent resident status, and can be removed from the United States if certain conditions of this status are not met.
1964-1966 - Cruz Sr. takes a few odd jobs, marries and moves to Canada to work in the oil fields. The Cruz family resides in Canada for the next eight years. “I worked in Canada for eight years,†Rafael Cruz says. “And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen.†– (From and interview with NPR) “Peter Spiro, a legal expert on US citizenship at Temple University. Spiro says Rafael Cruz’s multi-country odyssey did not follow traditional models for immigration. SPIRO - “Ted Cruz himself seems to be an advocate of those traditional immigration models. Maybe he should be a little more tolerant of the nontraditional Versions, given his own father’s history.â€
1970 - Ted Cruz is born in Canada, to two parents who had lived in Canada for at least four years at that time, and had applied for and received Canadian citizenship under Canadian Immigration and Naturalization Laws, as stated by Rafael Cruz. As a result, US statutes would have voided the prior “green card” status which requires among other things, permanent residency within the United States and obviously, not becoming a citizen of another country during the time frame of the US green card.
1974 - The Cruz family moves to the United States when Ted is approximately four years old. Rafael Cruz has publicly stated that he remained a citizen of Canada until he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he applied for and became a US Naturalized citizen in 2005. As a result, his wife and son were also Canadian citizens, his son being born a citizen of Canada in 1970.
2005 - Rafael Cruz applies for legal US citizenship and renounces his Canadian citizenship. No record of Ted renouncing his Canadian citizenship or applying for US citizenship exists as of 2005.
2013 - Freshman Senator Ted Cruz is a rising star in the Tea Party movement, and calls for him to run for the White House begin. In July, Ted Cruz is Questioned by the press about his interest in running for President, and the issue of his Canadian born citizenship is brought up Sen. Ted Cruz rejected questions Sunday over his eligibility to be president, saying that although he was born in Canada “the facts are clear†that he is a US citizen.
“My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She is a US. citizen, so I’m a US citizen by birth,†Cruz told A&C. “I’m not going to engage in a legal debate.â€
NOTE: Senator Cruz omits the part of his father’s story, in particular, the part about his parents applying for and receiving Canadian citizenship prior to Ted’s birth in Calgary. He also attempts to gloss past the actual definition of natural)born Citizen by implying it is a mere legal debate for others to figure out.
August 2013 - As Ted’s political stock rises in the Tea Party, so do press questions about his eligibility for office. Ted decides to quiet the questions by releasing his birth certificate, which now becomes absolute proof of Ted’s Canadian citizenship at birth, 1970, Calgary, Canada. The release of the Canadian birth records only serve to further fuel the controversy.
Ted seeks Legal Counsel, as the media is now pressing members of Canadian Immigration and Naturalization to clear the matter up, when instead, Canadian officials confirm the Ted Cruz was in fact born a legal citizen of Canada, the son of two parents who had also applied for and received Canadian citizenship prior to Ted’s birth.
“He’s a Canadian,†said Toronto lawyer Stephen Green, past chairman of the Canadian Bar Association’s Citizenship and Immigration Section.
“Generally speaking, under the Citizenship Act of 1947, those born in Canada were automatically citizens at birth unless their parent was a foreign diplomat, â€said ministry spokeswoman Julie Lafortune.
Legal counsel advises Ted to “renounce his Canadian citizenship” in order to make himself eligible to run for the presidency. Of course, renouncing one’s original citizenship only further proves one’s original citizenship.
May 2014 - Ted Cruz legal counsel files to renounce Ted’s Canadian citizenship in an effort to make him eligible to run for high office under the natural born Citizen clause Article II in the US Constitution.
AUSTIN, Texas - Canada-born US Sen. Ted Cruz has given up his citizenship from his birth country, making good on a promise from last summer. spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said “the Tea Party favorite formally gave up his citizenship May 14th. He received official confirmation of the action at his Houston home Tuesday.â€
News that he had renounced his citizenship was first reported by the Dallas Morning News. The newspaper also bro$e that Cruz had dual Canadian) US citizenship when he released his birth certificate in August.
Frazier said Cruz “he is pleased to have the process finalized†and that it “makes sense he should be only an American citizen.â€- of course, the Constitution does not require that one be only an American citizen, but rather a natural born Citizen.
As of February 4, 2015 - No evidence of any US Citizenship has been released to confirm anything at all about the true citizenship status of Ted Cruz.
Because Ted Cruz has been confirmed a legal citizen of Canada up until renouncing his Canadian citizenship in May of 2014, and because he has been confirmed a citizen of Canada at birth, and because his father is on public record stating that he and his wife became citizens of Canada during their eight years living in Canada and because Rafael Cruz remained a citizen of Canada until he renounced and applied for legal US citizenship in 2005. There is simply NO WAY that Ted Cruz was, is or ever can be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States eligible for the offices of President or Vice President.
So, does this mean that members of the Tea Party are engaged in an overt effort to defraud Tea Party members who are Ted fans, by all of this legal fancy foot work.
The facts are all well documented. You decide...
One who inherits their Citizenship at birth via nature alone, from their natural birth father, is a natural born Citizen of the United States. According to all available information on Ted Cruz and his family, Ted Cruz was a native born citizen of Canada and not a natural born Citizen of the United States. Now, Ted is either not too bright, or not too honest... But he is at least one of the two... and what about the Tea Party leaders behind this legal shell game?
State of Delaware vital records says, no record of Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson Cruz exist. Ted Cruz’s mother does not have a US birth certificate.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/256409078/Cruz-Citizenship-Timeline-documented
Ted Cruz Citizenship Timeline
State of Delaware Vital Records says, no record of Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson Cruz birth exist. Ted Cruz’s mother does not have a US birth certificate.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/anna-tomerlin/ted-cruz-citizenship-timeline/815852778451290
I think a strong argument can be made that Obama is not a NBC. A much stronger argument can be made that Cruz is noty a NBC however. and Obama’s time has mostly passed.... like a bad case of the stomach flu.
I’m with you. I like Cruz and would like to see him on the Supreme Court.
I just don’t think he’s a ‘natural born citizen.’
It’s also ironic that this Constitutional conservative would be caught up in a dispute over original intent and... taking the side of the liberals.
Mary also said this!!!!
Donald Trump is actually right about something: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not eligible to be president or vice president of the United States.
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Cruz is, of course, a U.S. citizen. As he was born in Canada, he is not natural born. His mother, however, is an American, and Congress has provided by statute for the naturalization of children born abroad to citizens. Because of the senator’s parentage, he did not have to follow the lengthy naturalization process that aliens without American parents must undergo. Instead, Cruz was naturalized at birth.
Any nonsense about being born abroad is immediately shot down: there are many children of US military born abroad. Are they disqualified because of some weird cockamamie theory of what NBC means??
The 'Rats may choose to litigate it, but they will get no further than that dentist did against Obama.
Any nonsense about being born abroad is immediately shot down: there are many children of US military born abroad. Are they disqualified because of some weird cockamamie theory of what NBC means??
The 'Rats may choose to litigate it, but they will get no further than that dentist did against Obama.
Trump never ever said that Cruz was not eligible!! He said he was not sure of his eligibility! Not knowing is the big problem. That’s just a fact whether you like it or not! It needs to be resolved asap! Unlike the squishy republicans, the Rat Party will chase this to the ends of the universe!
This is the 3rd time I’ve seen this posted.
Give it a rest !!!!
Neither are Jindal, Rubio, or Nikki Haley eligible to be president or VEEP !
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