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Steven Avery says his own brother killed Teresa Halbach
wbay.com ^ | 02/02/16 | Steve Schuster

Posted on 02/02/2016 9:55:26 PM PST by Reddy

Steven Avery has accused his own brother, Earl Avery, of murdering Teresa Halbach, during an exclusive interview with Access Hollywood this week, his brother said.

During one of Earl Avery’s first on-camera interviews he said while he hasn’t seen Steven in more than a decade, he talked with him via telephone for the first time in eight years, last week.

During that call Steven allegedly told Earl his new lawyers told him to say Earl killed Teresa Halbach, Earl says.

Earl also said that he believes Steven Avery may be granted a new trial in Wausau.

“Everybody in Manitowoc County is against us,” he said.

As previously reported by Action 2 News, Avery has secured new legal counsel, Kathleen Zellner, in the Chicago area.

Zellner recently said, “Since 2007 there have been significant advances in forensic testing,” and claims new information will be soon brought to light about latest Avery’s appeal.

Key players in the Steven Avery murder trial have received more recent attention after the release of the Netflix Series “Making a Murderer.”

Earl says he gets about 30 telephone calls a day from people who either hang up, or call him a murderer.

Alan Avery, Steven’s father, was also interviewed and said Steven’s mental state isn’t good.

“You’re locked up in a cage, it’s like one of my rabbits,” he said.


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KEYWORDS: brendandassey; stevenavery; teresahalbach
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Still more intrigue from Manitowok County.

Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey deserve a new trial.

It seems that Steven was the only suspect during the original investigation, and all evidence was procured to produce his guilt.

May justice prevail.

1 posted on 02/02/2016 9:55:27 PM PST by Reddy
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To: Reddy

Not an expert on the case but there was a lot of very incriminating evidence pointing to him.


2 posted on 02/02/2016 10:03:01 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Reddy

I have spoken with many people who know him personally and he is guilty as sin. Although he was originally convicted and exonerated of raping Penny Beerntsen, he has admitted that he held her down during the rape. His murder of Teresa Halbach is also not in doubt by the people who know him now. He is a clear and present danger to society and he will almost certainly kill again if he is released. That one-sided, liberal propaganda film may end up getting more women killed if he is released.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 10:06:12 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; All
Interesting. Who raped ms. Beerntsen? The near look alike that the city police liked for the crime?
4 posted on 02/02/2016 10:11:45 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Eagles6

I’m not an expert, either, but I STILL have not seen any evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that would indicate Steven Avery was guilty.

I really wish there was evidence BRD. For whoever was the real murderer.


5 posted on 02/02/2016 10:12:45 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
It seems that Steven was the only suspect during the original investigation, and all evidence was procured to produce his guilt.

Well, let's see why that was, shall we?

He is known to have been one of the last people to speak with her despite his inept attempts to hide his identity behind his sister's ad-buy and the *67 feature of his phone. [Guess he didn't know the phone company would still be able to identify the call.] His junkyard is the last place where she was known to be alive. She was never seen again by anyone after going there. Her vehicle was discovered on his property -- NOT by the police that he claims were framing him -- but by a civilian volunteer walking the property in the aftermath of her disappearance.

We can go into the overwhelming forensic evidence against him if you want, most of which was not covered in the progtard "documentary."

And we can consider his own chilling words, told to his ex, who asked NOT to be included in the documentary, but who -- to the lasting shame of the filmmakers -- was included anyway: "All b!tches owe me."

Yeah. A very, very sweet, innocent, man. Butter would not melt in his mouth.

6 posted on 02/02/2016 10:17:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

What the heck?

If I recall correctly, Steven Avery had 18 witnesses who placed him out of the county at the time of the Beernsten attack. That was what was so egregious about the first guilty verdict.

Why would someone who was just exonerated after 18 years in prison and had the prosper of a multi-million dollar lawsuit win in his grasp murder someone in his bedroom (with no blood evidence found there). It does not make sense.

The easiest explanation is that he was framed by the sheriff’s department so they wouldn’t be exposed for their role in the initial framing, and also the pending settlement issue.

This is just the weirdest crime story ever.


7 posted on 02/02/2016 10:18:53 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
So bullet fragments from his gun, in his garage with Teresa Halbach's DNA is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? So, the fact that he had a bonfire on the night she disappeared in which the remains of ALL of the bones in her body were found is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? The fact that his blood and his sweat were found in Teresa's car is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt?

Thank God you weren't on his jury. Were you, by any chance, one of the Casey Anthony or OJ jurors?

8 posted on 02/02/2016 10:21:26 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: Reddy
Steven Avery had 18 witnesses who placed him out of the county at the time of the Beernsten attack

Every one of whom was a member of his white trash family, and although they won't tell you this in their little propaganda film, the jury didn't believe any of them, because there was substantial evidence that he was in fact in the county at the time of the rape. In fact, that played into their determination of guilt.

9 posted on 02/02/2016 10:23:41 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: FredZarguna

IDK, but I do know that I would want to be considered innocent until proven guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. It appears that did not happen in this case.

He was the last person to speak to her. So what? He admits that on camera. If you murdered someone, wouldn’t you say, hey, I haven’t seen (murdered person)? And so what that he called her. This was before smart phones, and he was trying to ascertain when she would come so he wouldn’t be waiting all day for her to arrive. Ever wait all day for a repairman to come? And so what that he *67 his number. Maybe he thought she was avoiding his calls while he waisted his time all day waiting for her to come. It’s all so easy to dismiss. It does not point to murder. And yes, her vehicle was discovered on his family property *by one of her relatives* **after her car was reported to have been seen by a LEO** There are just too many what the hecks in this case, and too many issues that don’t add up to reasonable doubt. The, “All b’s owe me!” statement? He’s not a Casinova , that’s for sure. But that doesn’t prove he committed murder.


10 posted on 02/02/2016 10:26:21 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: FredZarguna

LOL. I was FINALLY called to be a juror this summer (after deferring it for many years due to childbearing, etc.) and I, sadly, did not find myself on O.J’s or Anthony’s juries.

The bullet fragment (singular) that was found in Avery’s garage with Halbach’s DNA was found after many searches and with no. other. blood. evidence. So either Teresa was killed in the bedroom (as the prosecutor initially proffered) with no blood evidence, or in the garage with no blood evidence (except for one singular bullet which was found after many searches). Does this point to evidence of murder beyond a reasonable doubt or to planting of evidence? I would say that any question about the latter means that we should acquiesce to the former.


11 posted on 02/02/2016 10:34:49 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
He was the last person to speak to her.

The last person to see any dead person is automatically a suspect.

So what? He admits that on camera.

Speaking of "so what?" He had to admit it. The evidence that he was the last person known to have seen her was overwhelming. He could only hurt his case by denying it.

If you murdered someone, wouldn't you say, hey, I haven't seen (murdered person)?

Not if it was known that I had, in fact, seen her. And it was known. If it was known I had seen her, and denied it, it would be incriminating.

And so what that he called her. This was before smart phones, and he was trying to ascertain when she would come so he wouldn’t be waiting all day for her to arrive.

He was at his own home, which is adjacent to his business. The photo shoot was set up to sell a car. Between home or work on the day of an appointment where else did he have to be -- raping someone else?

Ever wait all day for a repairman to come?

Yeah, I have. And when I call them, I make damn good and sure they know who I am and why they had better keep their appointment with me.

And so what that he *67 his number. Maybe he thought she was avoiding his calls while he waisted his time all day waiting for her to come.

How would disguising his number keep her from avoiding his calls? I don't know about you, but most of us DON'T pick up the phone when the receiver says "name unavailable." Only an idiot -- or someone who knows they're actually more annoying than a robocaller -- would suppress his identity on a call.

It's all so easy to dismiss.

Nope, it's not. The circumstantial part of the case is built up from small things which taken singly may seem to be trivial but, when taken together assemble themselves into the circumstances of murder. As a juror you must weigh all of the evidence. You don't get to just say "so what?" to one thing at a time. There is a context and a chronology to these events.

And you haven't addressed any of the forensic evidence. With good reason: the defense's objection to the forensic evidence is cherry picked, and wrong. The supposedly sinister puncture in the blood vial is made all the time, means nothing, and has even been admitted to by a nurse who came forward to explain why. Or is she -- like almost everyone in the upper midwest except for Steven Avery's white trash relatives -- in on the conspiracy, too?

It does not point to murder.

A jury, who heard all of the evidence, and not just a handful of facts picked at by the defense for a film does not agree.

And yes, her vehicle was discovered on his family property *by one of her relatives* **after her car was reported to have been seen by a LEO**

Was the car on his property, or was it not?

Here are nine facts the documentary doesn't give about Steven Avery. There are many, many more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/evidence-s-missing-making-murderer-article-1.2485213

12 posted on 02/02/2016 10:49:09 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: Reddy
Brendan Dassey's mother asked him why his jeans were covered with Chlorox Bleach. Maybe you snoozed through that part. The "missing" evidence was thoroughly scrubbed. But Avery and Dassey didn't find it all. You are also forgetting something: postmortem, how was Teresa Halbach's DNA placed on a bullet from Avery's gun? She had already been burned to a crisp by Steven Avery at that time.
13 posted on 02/02/2016 10:52:29 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: FredZarguna

So being from a white trash family means that you give up your rights to a trial where you are considered innocent until you are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? I don’t see that in the Constitution.

It’s obvious now that he wasn’t guilty of the rape of Beernsten due to DNA evidence, and his l8 witnesses should have been enough to exculpate him even without the DNA evidence. But it didn’t, did it? Hmmm. There is some kind of problem in Manitowok County and it isn’t the Averys.


14 posted on 02/02/2016 10:54:10 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: FredZarguna

“The last person to speak to a person is automatically suspect.”

Yet it is common knowledge that most killers are known to the victim. Halbach’s brother and boyfriend were never investigated for the crime.

All of the “so what” statements I made were examples of behavior that any typical person would exhibit. Calling a repairman (photographer) many times to see when they would arrive. Using *67 to see if they would answer since you had already called previously, etc. Those are reasonable explanations.

The jury was from Manitowok County. Enough said. They were bussed to the neighboring county. They were not impartial. The MC sheriff’s office interfered when they should have remained neutral. IMO, that’s good enough cause to question the outcome of a guilty verdict. I’m pro LEO as the next person, but when there is 30 million on the line, you know they are going after Avery to avoid that happening.


15 posted on 02/02/2016 11:00:25 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
his l8 witnesses should have been enough to exculpate him even without the DNA evidence.

They would have been, except that the jury heard evidence to the effect that they were lying, and believed the evidence instead of Steven Avery's family.

There is some kind of problem in Manitowok County and it isn't the Averys.

Right. Because Steven Avery, though innocent of one rape, was guilty of felony animal cruelty, felony assault, felony possession of a firearm while on parole, threat with a deadly weapon, and at least one molestation of a relative.

So, no problems there.

Is that you, Steve's mom? Are you still floating the theory that Teresa Halbach is actually still alive?

16 posted on 02/02/2016 11:03:23 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: FredZarguna

Why does the prosecutor not use Dassey’s testimony in Avery’s trial. He stands there and says that Avery and Avery alone is responsible for Halbach’s murder. Then he turns around and tries Dassey for Halbach’s murder.

There is no way that Dassey or Avery could clean up the bedroom to remove all of Halbach’s DNA if they had murdered her there, as the DA claimed. Absolutely NO DNA. After supposedly having her throat cut.

And there was absolutely no DNA in the garage, after having been shot there or near there (besides the bullet which was probably planted). Impossible.


17 posted on 02/02/2016 11:06:13 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
The original court reheard these claims; they were rejected. Is the judge corrupt to? The appeals court? The WI Supreme Court? Because they also heard arguments, and Steven Avery exhausted ALL of his appeals. Who else? The FBI?

There are many, many more people involved in your conspiracy than just all law enforcement in Manitowoc County and the judge and 12 jurors who heard the case. Now we have to believe Steven Avery's brother or boyfriend was guilty as well. When the facts don't fit that theory we'll have a Bushy Haired Stranger or a One Armed Man.

Where does it end?

18 posted on 02/02/2016 11:08:16 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: FredZarguna

Here is my take- the documentary filmmakers were on the scene to film the exoneration of Avery for the wrongful incarceration.

Avery sued. The responsible insurance company found the initial guilty verdict evidence so egregious that they refused to cover the MC sheriff’s department. The department was on the line for millions in compensatory damages.

Halbach is declared missing, and behold, she was last seen at Avery’s business.

The MC sheriff’s department once again molded the evidence to fit the crime. Even when the evidence didn’t fit. That way they got rid of white trash Steven Avery once and for all. Along with his white trash nephew. And they were able to put the family business at risk while they were at it.

The LEO’s were not after justice for Teresa Halbach. They were out to get Steven Avery and they did so.

Your silly ad-hoc attacks on me (asking if I am Steve’s mom, etc.) make me believe that you are somehow attached to the MC sheriff’s department.

If only you would be that concerned with finding out who really killed Teresa Halbach.


19 posted on 02/02/2016 11:16:00 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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“The original court reheard these claims; they were rejected. Is the judge corrupt to? The appeals court? The WI Supreme Court? Because they also heard arguments, and Steven Avery exhausted ALL of his appeals. Who else? The FBI?’

Um, hello?

Steven Avery also appealed his original conviction to the highest courts and his conviction was upheld while he remained in prison for l8 years.

Yet he was innocent.


20 posted on 02/02/2016 11:18:53 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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