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Posted on 02/17/2016 9:04:36 PM PST by TigerClaws
Maybe they could just say, ok, we can build that, but it make take us 30 years to do it. This is not Enigma or JN25.
While I wish the Feds could find out what they need to know, about the San Bernardino terrorists, I agree with the other poster. Don't let the POSs in the country to begin with. That female should not have been here.
I think the government already knows more about us than we would like them to. There is a fine line here. When has the government ever needed something, that they could not turn around and bite us in the behind with? Yes, I want terrorism destroyed, but how long will it be, before they use it against us patriots?
I can understand that. But in this case Apple can comply, they just don't want to do so.
Now the tool they are asking Apple to create would completely undermine the security of their product. Even if they tried to restrict it to the single phone in this case, once the tool was created, reverse-engineering it to create a tool that would work on any iPhone would be possible. (And we are to trust that the government would not do such a thing, and would make sure the tool never leaked into the public domain - sure!!!)
What is questionable to me is whether it is legal to force a company to create a new version of the a product for law enforcement purposes. They are not asking for access to a backdoor that is already built into the product, or for a tool already in use by Apple - they are trying to force Apple to create a new way to allow them to crack the pin. As far as I know, slavery is still illegal - you cannot force someone to create a new product.
One could even say that Apple was refusing to cooperate in the return of stolen property, meaning the information contained on that phone before the terrorist stole it. :)
That is, one could say this if one wanted to be a legal technicality hair-splitting Son of a B*tch.
I find it odd that we have judges that feel the courts have the power to order Apple to CREATE a backdoor to get into someone elses property but would never consider an order to search and monitor the mosques where all these subhumans foment their evil.
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Wow. This is HUGE. Apple defending terrorists.
I did read the article. Apple can disable the delay and erasure features. That will likely accomplish the intended result.
Now the tool they are asking Apple to create would completely undermine the security of their product. Even if they tried to restrict it to the single phone in this case, once the tool was created, reverse-engineering it to create a tool that would work on any iPhone would be possible.
Now I can ask you if *YOU* read the article.
Again in plain English, the FBI wants Apple to create a special version of iOS that only works on the one iPhone they have recovered. This customized version of iOS (*ahem* FBiOS) will ignore passcode entry delays, will not erase the device after any number of incorrect attempts, and will allow the FBI to hook up an external device to facilitate guessing the passcode. The FBI will send Apple the recovered iPhone so that this customized version of iOS never physically leaves the Apple campus.
As far as I know, slavery is still illegal - you cannot force someone to create a new product.
If you can force Christians to bake Faggot cakes, then you can force Faggot ran companies to make their cracks available when the government wants to penetrate their software.
Don't try that slavery crap on me. I am way past the point of being sick of all the slavery I already get imposed on me by the government. I think Socialist supporting people and companies need as much "slavery" imposed on them as it takes for them to wake the F*** up and stop supporting socialist candidates as our rulers.
No Doubt Apple inc is supporting Bernie the Commie this year.
Probably a relatively minor firm ware revision. One of their coders could probably do it in a couple of hours.
If ti takes an army of 1000 programmers working for several years to do this, that is going to be expensive. Plus, taking this people away from their usual jobs is going to hurt Apple.
Maybe the issue is that enough money has not yet been offered...
Maybe if the government had actually done its’ frickin’ job and kept the terrorists out of the country, they wouldn’t have to come begging to Apple.
Like shutting out govt snooping.
FBI/govt. has to reimburse Apple for any work done...
bottom of “All Writs Act” court order here:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2714001-SB-Shooter-Order-Compelling-Apple-Asst-iPhone.html
Hopefully no work will be needed.
Many think this is like discovery on someone’s phone bill....not the same. People keep personal banking, payment and other Fifth amendment right info on smart phones and computers. Just because the storage system has changed, does not mean the rights of citizens is lessened. The Feds are stretching for more power to spy and contol you. Obama admin is persuing this, therefore I do not trust at all. Cannot understand those here that do support giving this Admin more power over the people...trolls maybe...disallusioned...or early dementia?
That was THEN, This is NOW!
I'll try a shot at a "CLIFF NOTES" answer.
Prior Apple I-Phones, apple was able to do this (get into a phone & Contents.)
The model the court(s) is asking Apple to get / give access to the FBI, or what ever 3 Lettered Agency. Has two problems as from what I heard explained today via the radio, via Rush.
PROBLEM No.#:1, Access to the general I-Phone it self, via the "TIME LOCK(s,)" something like you get four or five tries, then the first of many (TIME LOCK(s)) kicks in, I believe something like three or four minutes, and escalates from each "UNSUCCESSFUL Attempt" there after.
PROBLEM No.#:2, Access to the "CONTENT'S," after your able to "OPEN" the I-PHONE, then your going to need the "Encryption KEY(s)."
"Encryption KEY No.#:1," i.e., or think I-Phone No.#:1, the sender, of a message.
"Encryption KEY No.#:2," i.e.,or think I-Phone No.#:2, the receiver, of a message.
Yes Rush said a Person working for Law Enforcement could write the "CODE" so that the I-Phone would not use the "Time LOCK(s)," but if Apple won't "SIGN" the code, the phone will just lock itself, by default for "SECURITY."
Hope this helps out.
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No, not the encryption key, because Apple doesn't have it and won't have it. Apple doesn't want the government to have any means to unlock all iPhones, which is what they are after.
Don't worry, it's not. It was easy for Apple to unlock earlier iPhones from 2008 through the iPhone 4s running iOS 6 and under.
No. This is about the millions of this model of iPhone already in the wild. It would put every single one of them at risk. This is NOT about the encryption, it's about the timing out of passcodes that prevent crooks from breaking into iPhones to use brute force dictionary attacks. It is the BASIC security level the judge wants them to get around, not the encryption. That's the strange thing. The encryption will STILL be there. . . and that would take years to decipher.
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