Why you should side with Apple, not the FBI, in the San Bernardino iPhone case

Jihad Watch ^ | 02/21/2016 | Robert Spencer

[Rusty0604]

Apple says what the gov’t is asking them to do no other gov’t has asked, including China.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

So what?

[Rusty0604]

Is that the best response you can come up with?

[Nifster]

Mes culpa.

I responded too quickly before I read the last sentence.

I am not worthy

Not drunk just a case of ready fire aim

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

If apple wants to team up with IBM for the office fat chance. If you want commit espionage on your government owned phone apple is fine with that? Private business will see the folly of buying apple devices. Apple.will pay dearly. Maybe the next admin will flush their little tax dodge/haven down the toilet. I could see The Donald doing that.

[big'ol_freeper]

RE: Maybe the government should focus more on keeping the terrorists out of the country in the first place, rather than going after a private company.

Bingo!!!!

And cracking the phone is the FBI’s problem not Apples. Apple’s job is to provide the most secure product possible to its customers (which evidently they do very well). If the FBI wants to crack it hire someone to do it who is willing. Prepare to pay.

[big'ol_freeper]

Wow...more evidence Trumpsters are knuckle-draggers.

[roadcat]

Not drunk just a case of ready fire aim

Ha-ha, okay! I worry about doing that. Just back from a dinner with a friend about when to shoot if someone barges in. He's not sure of doing any firing. I said I am. Just hope its in the right order myself, and fire only when sure. Regards...

[Rusty0604]

Lol, you need to get away from the keyboard.

[Nifster]

😅

[Nifster]

Interesting that did not come out right at all should have looked like this

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[hattend]

Do they have a warrant to search the phone?

Do they need a warrant if the perps are dead?

I'm serious, I don't know.

[palmer]

Under the 5th, a court order would require a perp to give up a passcode. Courts have been reluctant to force people to give up passwords unless the police specifically identify what they are looking for. As an example, people can't be forced to open a safe for no reason, there has to be evidence (which could be testimony) regarding some specific item or information the safe.

There is no reason that the 5th stops when someone dies. Courts vary greatly on which rights continue beyond death, so I am not sure, but would think there is some protection, especially in a case like this in which the police can't identify what they are looking for.

[Grampa Dave]

Apple vs. FBI: 9 Updates in the Fight Over a Killer’s Locked iPhone
MEDIA | By Joan E. Solsman on February 22, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

http://www.thewrap.com/apple-vs-fbi-9-updates-fight-locked-iphone/

[Grampa Dave]

Microsoft founder Gates backs FBI in encryption fight with Apple

Published February 23, 2016 FoxNews.com
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The clash between Apple and FBI heats up

Microsoft founder Bill Gates has broken with other Silicon Valley giants by backing the FBI in its battle with Apple over hacking into a locked iPhone as part of the investigation into last December’s San Bernardino terror attack.

In an interview with the Financial Times published Tuesday, Gates said a court order requiring Apple to help the FBI access a work phone belonging to gunman Syed Farook was “ a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case.”

Gates went on to compare the FBI request to accessing bank and telephone records. However, he added that the government must be subject to rules about when it can access such information.

I hope that we have that debate so that the safeguards are built and so people do not opt, and this will be country by country. [to say] it is better that the government does not have access to any information. Gates said.

The San Bernardino County-issued iPhone 5C was used by Farook, who with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, killed 14 people at an office holiday party in December before they died in a gun battle with police. The government said they had been at least partly inspired by ISIS.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/02/23/microsoft-founder-gates-backs-fbi-in-encryption-fight-with-apple.html