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Why you should side with Apple, not the FBI, in the San Bernardino iPhone case
Jihad Watch ^ | 02/21/2016 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 02/21/2016 11:37:27 AM PST by Rusty0604

What the FBI wants to do would make us less secure, even though it’s in the name of keeping us safe from harm. Powerful governments, democratic and totalitarian alike, want access to user data for both law enforcement and social control. We cannot build a backdoor that only works for a particular type of government, or only in the presence of a particular court order.” In the age of Obama and Hillary Clinton, that is a very serious concern.

What the FBI wants to do would make us less secure, even though it’s in the name of keeping us safe from harm. Powerful governments, democratic and totalitarian alike, want access to user data for both law enforcement and social control. We cannot build a backdoor that only works for a particular type of government, or only in the presence of a particular court order.

Either everyone gets security or no one does. Either everyone gets access or no one does. The current case is about a single iPhone 5c, but the precedent it sets will apply to all smartphones, computers, cars and everything the Internet of Things promises. The danger is that the court’s demands will pave the way to the FBI forcing Apple and others to reduce the security levels of their smart phones and computers, as well as the security of cars, medical devices, homes, and everything else that will soon be computerized. The FBI may be targeting the iPhone of the San Bernardino shooter, but its actions imperil us all.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: apple; applw; california; counterterrorism; fbi; iphone; sanbernadino; sanbernardino
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This is coming from someone very much concerned with national security.
1 posted on 02/21/2016 11:37:27 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I concur with this and do not like Mr. Cook or his liberal army; I am siding with Apple as a corporation.


2 posted on 02/21/2016 11:39:49 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for Cruz or Trump; if one doesn't win, vote the other or lose your Republic.)
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To: Rusty0604

Here’s what I think.

If Apple can crack the terrorist phone open, then it should do that and give the phone to the FBI so they can look at it.

Apple should not make a program that can crack any phone anytime the FBI wants to.


3 posted on 02/21/2016 11:39:52 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I fear the government more than Apple.


5 posted on 02/21/2016 11:41:32 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Do they have a warrant to search the phone?

If so, then Apple has very few legal fig leaves to cover themselves with. They have opened up phones in the past with little complaint, and do so in China all the time. Rather than say “I stand with Apple!” ask “Why now?”


6 posted on 02/21/2016 11:42:25 AM PST by redgolum
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To: QuinqueViae

That doesn’t make any sense. At all.


7 posted on 02/21/2016 11:43:13 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: Rusty0604

I care not what the FBI wants or doesn’t want.

But if a judge signs the order, then everything changes. Apple must comply. As an analogy, I will not permit the police to enter my house to just look around. But if the police have a search warrant signed by a judge, then I will step aside and permit the search.

That’s how our Republic is supposed to work.


8 posted on 02/21/2016 11:43:22 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: redgolum

The gov’t is in possession of the phone. It’s their problem if they are not smart or too lazy to open it. As a matter of fact, they actually changed the password without a plan to open it later.


9 posted on 02/21/2016 11:45:34 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: QuinqueViae
There is really no difference. If you support Apple, you are supporting Cook’s homosexual lifestyle.

This is the kind of thinking they are teaching in schools these days.

10 posted on 02/21/2016 11:46:17 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: chris37
I agree, the FBI should turn the phone over to Apple to open and decrypt, turn over data subject to a court order.

No special access or backdoor for the FBI or CIA.

...case by case basis.

That phone is evidence in a terrorist mass murder.

11 posted on 02/21/2016 11:49:42 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: QuinqueViae
There is really no difference. If you support Apple, you are supporting Cook's homosexual lifestyle.

Oh, stuff it.

Posted from my MacBook Pro.

12 posted on 02/21/2016 11:50:26 AM PST by Drew68
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To: redgolum

I hear you, but we know WHY and we know WHY NOW...some thoughts come to mind about mining data of Apple phone owners, which I’d suspect are majority Dems, therefore they’d like to get more $$ for donations; metadata would be great for Dems.


13 posted on 02/21/2016 11:50:41 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for Cruz or Trump; if one doesn't win, vote the other or lose your Republic.)
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To: Rusty0604

I can see merits on both sides of the argument, but will it take a successful dirty bomb attack or worse to diminish the concern for hacking a single iPhone?


14 posted on 02/21/2016 11:51:23 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

Maybe the government should focus more on keeping the terrorists out of the country in the first place, rather than going after a private company.


15 posted on 02/21/2016 11:52:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rusty0604
I haven't chosen a side yet.

But, that being said, I wonder what kind of information could possibly be on a terrorists phone.

Contact with other co-conspirators?

Other caches of arms?

Other locations they could have been to?

Sources of financing and arms?

I don't think on either side it's as cut and dried as the players in this peeing match are making out.

I really don't see why apple is kicking up this kinda storm when a judge is backstopping the FBI. I mean it's not like Apple hasn't turned over private information to govt agencies before! Compared with other Directors of the FBI I think we kinda gotta protect and believe in Comey, for the Hillary investigation if nothing else.

Besides, what terrorist outfit have the lefties such as those at Apple ever not loved??

Just my $.02

16 posted on 02/21/2016 11:52:15 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: Rusty0604

There is so much conflicting information and spin that I do not know what to think. One source said that the FBI changed the access code a month after the shooting and forgot what they changed it to.


17 posted on 02/21/2016 11:52:42 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Rusty0604

True words. This is what people should be worried anouy


18 posted on 02/21/2016 11:53:14 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: chris37

Apple has already said they can’t crack it. The stupid county employee who changed the password ought to be forced to remember it. And then fired and investigsted


19 posted on 02/21/2016 11:55:03 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: CincyRichieRich

a dead terrorist has a phone that the FBI can’t get into. Apple should help them. Pretty simple this one.


20 posted on 02/21/2016 11:55:20 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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