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This is coming from someone very much concerned with national security.
1 posted on 02/21/2016 11:37:27 AM PST by Rusty0604
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I concur with this and do not like Mr. Cook or his liberal army; I am siding with Apple as a corporation.


2 posted on 02/21/2016 11:39:49 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for Cruz or Trump; if one doesn't win, vote the other or lose your Republic.)
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Here’s what I think.

If Apple can crack the terrorist phone open, then it should do that and give the phone to the FBI so they can look at it.

Apple should not make a program that can crack any phone anytime the FBI wants to.


3 posted on 02/21/2016 11:39:52 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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I care not what the FBI wants or doesn’t want.

But if a judge signs the order, then everything changes. Apple must comply. As an analogy, I will not permit the police to enter my house to just look around. But if the police have a search warrant signed by a judge, then I will step aside and permit the search.

That’s how our Republic is supposed to work.


8 posted on 02/21/2016 11:43:22 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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I can see merits on both sides of the argument, but will it take a successful dirty bomb attack or worse to diminish the concern for hacking a single iPhone?


14 posted on 02/21/2016 11:51:23 AM PST by windsorknot
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I haven't chosen a side yet.

But, that being said, I wonder what kind of information could possibly be on a terrorists phone.

Contact with other co-conspirators?

Other caches of arms?

Other locations they could have been to?

Sources of financing and arms?

I don't think on either side it's as cut and dried as the players in this peeing match are making out.

I really don't see why apple is kicking up this kinda storm when a judge is backstopping the FBI. I mean it's not like Apple hasn't turned over private information to govt agencies before! Compared with other Directors of the FBI I think we kinda gotta protect and believe in Comey, for the Hillary investigation if nothing else.

Besides, what terrorist outfit have the lefties such as those at Apple ever not loved??

Just my $.02

16 posted on 02/21/2016 11:52:15 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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There is so much conflicting information and spin that I do not know what to think. One source said that the FBI changed the access code a month after the shooting and forgot what they changed it to.


17 posted on 02/21/2016 11:52:42 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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True words. This is what people should be worried anouy


18 posted on 02/21/2016 11:53:14 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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What's that saying from one of the founding fathers [can I even say that anymore?] ...

Paraphrasing...."Those who give up liberty for safety deserve neither"

28 posted on 02/21/2016 12:01:24 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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Those who choose to take one side or the other need to be up to speed before commenting - most of the comments above deal with things which have either been answered: affirmed or debunked.


33 posted on 02/21/2016 12:06:33 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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The people who armed the Mexican cartels, brought in almost 2 million moslems since 9/11, ignored Russian warnings about the Boston bombers, used the IRS to investigate TEA, wont prosecute Hillary, switched sides in the war to support AL Qeida, committed Benghazi, refuses to look at the facebook page of entering foreigners, illegally collects all your emails, calls and text messages and LIED to congress about it, called Fort Hood workplace violence, wouldn’t call the Oklahoma beheading terrorism, supported Michael Brown, supports BLM terror and rioting, through the State department bought the Toyota fleet for ISIS, blamed the magazine for Charlie Hebdo, and responded to Paris with an assaholic lecture about not blaming Islam....

*These* are the people who you suddenly think want to protect us, and deserve to be trusted. No freakin’ way, what a joke.


41 posted on 02/21/2016 12:16:54 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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The government abhors the idea that we citizens have ways of communicating that they cannot arbitrarily tap into. That's what this is about.

Once Apple builds the iOS that will allow the feds to use brute force and crack the encryption, the government will demand the right to use the tool at will.

They will create super duper scary scenarios involving muslims and explosions and possible WMDs, but it will all be a bunch of theater.

Those threats are real, but the government's pretend addressing of those threats always seems to involve bringing the American citizen to heel.

You want to really address the threats, get warrants on the mosques not the tech companies.

42 posted on 02/21/2016 12:26:10 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Carl Grimes.)
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I’m just 50/50 on who I trust less, the FBI or that sodomite that heads up Apple and lied about seeing a cross burning.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 12:30:38 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Fort Marcy Park - It's how Bernie gets more votes but Hilary wins the state)
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Apple is being a little hypocritical from what I see.

They allow China to dictate policy for censorship, and recently the Error ‘53’. Sure it may not seem like much but saying they never capitulate is wrong too.


75 posted on 02/21/2016 2:02:15 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Apple has widely advertised this version of iOS as being so secure, even they can’t crack their own encryption. If Apple demonstrates the ability to crack even ONE iPhone, they open themselves up to a class-action lawsuit from EVERY iPhone owner.


79 posted on 02/21/2016 2:36:51 PM PST by 10mm
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Apple vs. FBI: 9 Updates in the Fight Over a Killer’s Locked iPhone
MEDIA | By Joan E. Solsman on February 22, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

http://www.thewrap.com/apple-vs-fbi-9-updates-fight-locked-iphone/


94 posted on 02/22/2016 8:39:16 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! faGo TRUMP!)
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Microsoft founder Gates backs FBI in encryption fight with Apple

Published February 23, 2016 FoxNews.com
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The clash between Apple and FBI heats up

Microsoft founder Bill Gates has broken with other Silicon Valley giants by backing the FBI in its battle with Apple over hacking into a locked iPhone as part of the investigation into last December’s San Bernardino terror attack.

In an interview with the Financial Times published Tuesday, Gates said a court order requiring Apple to help the FBI access a work phone belonging to gunman Syed Farook was “ a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case.”

Gates went on to compare the FBI request to accessing bank and telephone records. However, he added that the government must be subject to rules about when it can access such information.

I hope that we have that debate so that the safeguards are built and so people do not opt, and this will be country by country. [to say] it is better that the government does not have access to any information. Gates said.

The San Bernardino County-issued iPhone 5C was used by Farook, who with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, killed 14 people at an office holiday party in December before they died in a gun battle with police. The government said they had been at least partly inspired by ISIS.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/02/23/microsoft-founder-gates-backs-fbi-in-encryption-fight-with-apple.html


95 posted on 02/23/2016 7:29:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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