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Jonah Goldberg: Donald Trump, Christian Martyr
National Review ^ | February 26, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/27/2016 10:51:11 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

I, for one, am always interested in what Jonah Goldberg has to say, even though I often disagree with him. He’s intelligent, educated, informed, literate, articulate, and interesting, even if misguided in many instances. Also, he’s a dog lover, and that counts a lot. What I think he misses in evaluating Trump is that Trump is an eclectic pragmatist. This means that Trump’s political theory/ideology is not that of a pure conservative but rather a mixture of positions, many of which are conservative but some of which are not; this is his eclecticism. Methodologically, he’s a pragmatist in that he looks for solutions that will work rather than following procedures dictated by the playbook of conservative leaders. Most conservatives I know, including myself, are exactly like Trump in that we are very conservative with respect to some issues (e.g., gun rights, national security, immigration) but less so about others. We also look for what works rather than following the etiquette that our leaders try to impose. Finally, Trump is like most people in that he arrives at positions through successive approximations similar to trial and error. If one position seems excessive or insufficient, or if a particular method doesn’t work, we learn, adapt and try something different that might work. He is therefore in the process of evolving and becoming, just like most people do over their lifespans. This has certainly been true of myself and most people I know, and I suspect it also is and will continue to be true of Donald Trump and Jonah Goldberg. In the end, the best that voters can do is select the candidate who seems to come closest to what they and he think at the time, realizing that they are choosing the best fit and not perfect matching at that particular moment.


21 posted on 02/27/2016 12:44:05 PM PST by FJB
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To: EveningStar

NR attack team member.


22 posted on 02/27/2016 1:58:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: EveningStar
#‎NeverTrump‬ What people mean by posting it: Trump will never get our conservative and Christian votes. He shares none of our values, beliefs or goals. Trump is not trustworthy, moral or possibly sane. Trump has never been a conservative, he is the ultimate insider and has boasted of buying political favors. We will write-in someone else, vote 3rd party, stay home and maybe a few will vote Democrat if Trump is the nominee. It also means it is not our fault when he loses. The loser is the Trump in November.
23 posted on 02/27/2016 2:04:53 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: GeronL

No. The losers are the American people when you stay home or waste your votes, handling Hillary the WH.


24 posted on 02/27/2016 2:17:02 PM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: EveningStar

Jonah thinks it is funny that the IRS singled out Christians groups to audit? He think it funny that the Homeland inSecurity named Christians “who beleive in the end times” as domestic terrorists, too? How about the courts forcing Christians to serve homo wedding and nuns to provide abortion and birth control? How about those Christians in the school who were shot for admitting their assassin they are Christians? Those people wiped out in San Bernardino by the jihadists at a Christmas party? What about NASA just dictating that the Christian club can’t use the word Jesus in their club announcements? All this funny, Jonah?

Or does he just walk around with his head up Obama’s rear end? I hope he sucked his spleen through his nose.


25 posted on 02/27/2016 3:01:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: EveningStar

LOL. Good column by Jonah Goldberg. Thanks for the link.


26 posted on 02/27/2016 4:01:06 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: stockpirate

No way they are in the bag for him.


27 posted on 02/27/2016 5:49:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: stockpirate

The establishment never spent money to attack him and they only criticized him in the most light manner possible. So the only conclusion is they always like him but they knew what it takes to fake him and get support.


28 posted on 02/27/2016 5:49:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: miss marmelstein

Caught Red handed.


29 posted on 02/27/2016 5:50:39 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: EveningStar

Jonah Goldberg is feeling the butt hurt and can’t get up. :-)


30 posted on 02/27/2016 5:52:15 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: nickcarraway

What are you blabbering on about now?


31 posted on 02/27/2016 5:57:30 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: marron
I don't think he gets audited because of his religion.

I'm guessing that neither does he.

32 posted on 02/27/2016 6:00:12 PM PST by EveningStar (It's a cult.)
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