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Culture Rot: Donald Trump Is the Effect, Not the Cause
National Review ^ | March 05, 2016 | ANDREW MCCARTHY

Posted on 03/05/2016 10:14:17 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: Cold Heat

You might want to check your own before throwing mud.

As I have said...

If Trump gets the nomination, you will have the biggest case of buyer remorse in the history of US elections, but for some reason, which I view as psychologically induced, you cannot see it much less accept it.

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Nice diversion; didn’t think you’d address it. ;-)


41 posted on 03/05/2016 10:55:59 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Yaelle

We’ve had presidents keep to the decorum until the cameras were out of the room. Is that all these people want?

Trump, in his one on one interview with Hannity a couple weeks ago, told him he knows exactly how to behave in any social situation and has proven it a million times over in the charity and high society circuit. He feels there is no time right now for flowery BS. As President, he will know how to behave with the utmost of decorum at fancy events. No big.
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Exactly! And this is why Trump’s support continues to grow!


42 posted on 03/05/2016 10:57:54 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Steelfish

Careful Andy you’ll lose your job.


43 posted on 03/05/2016 10:59:18 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Steelfish

Careful Andy you’ll lose your job.


44 posted on 03/05/2016 10:59:19 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: RobbyS

Phrased for the sake of ‘poetry’.

I reckon I should have said, I want a Dobermann, not a Deacon.

Bark and bite.

Happy now?


45 posted on 03/05/2016 11:13:50 AM PST by Salamander (I made friends with a lot of people in the danger zone...)
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To: Steelfish
Donald Trump is not the cause of deterioration in our politics. He is the effect of deterioration in our culture.

And the destiny of a culture depends on its mode of thought. And the mode of thought of libtardism is disintegration which by its nature and by the law of causality leads to first to decay and decline and then to destruction.

46 posted on 03/05/2016 11:23:35 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Steelfish

Trump’s vulgarity sells. That’s why the networks love him. He’s a constant topic of conversation and condemnation on all channels. He’s entirely a creation of the media.

It reminds me of the movie Network. Satire has become reality. We have a rotten, corrupt political system led by the likes of Clinton and the “Clinton Foundation” , where offices and influence are openly sold on the international market. We are a society without morals. So now we have some blowhard telling us that he’s mad as hell, and he won’t take it any more, and all his followers obediently chant along.


47 posted on 03/05/2016 11:32:37 AM PST by theoilpainter
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To: Artcore
I did... To make this reply much shorter. Your man Trump has flipflopped on many things, and will continue to do so. When he announced, he said very little but as Cruz's positions came out, he took the opposite position and now has said on camera that he has changed his mind, When the ripple effect of this change became evident, he change his mind back.

And that's just on one issue which happens to be one that you are attacking cruz over. Cruz never backed H1b in full, he qualified it by saying that should evidence be found that H1b was being abused, he would modify his position and he has when evidence came forward that employers were abusing it.

Trump, on the other hand was against it before he was for it and then tried to reverse it again without any real explanation.

When the general begins, after the convention, and he makes it through, you will see plenty more of that because he has not core political principles to guide him and keep him on track. He is steeped like tea, in the NYC liberal culture. he may be a blue dog on immigration and guns, but the rest is up for grabs and his positions are not solid.

He explains that as a reason he's not a politician and does what he thinks is right. But what he thinks is right and what is the conservative position will have absolutely no connection.

He's a variable and malleable opinionated New Yorker. A common Queens political position that supports the democrats over the republicans in every election which is why he draws liberal voters.

Sure, he can win, but I can say that about any democrat, in this current liberal culture.

It's is much harder to get a conservative elected, and this race proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

48 posted on 03/05/2016 11:42:28 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Steelfish
Trump’s appeal is said to be his penchant for giving voice to the angry masses. But he is not a fit vessel for fighting the social suffocation brought on by political correctness. Trump says out loud things that no healthy person would even think, much less say — I mean, Ivanka is so hot that if she wasn’t my daughter, I’d probably be dating her? Whose mind works that way?

LOL, the proof that Trump IS a fit vessel for the fight against PC is the very fact that he's being lambasted FOR NOT being PC!

Look at this very quote, look at its example - shaming the working of his mind! NOT a contesting of the quote on its own merits! That IS political correctness! That is the shaming and dismissal of a SUBJECT per se, and a refusal to address the merits of an actual quote, position, statement, whatever. As if the subject itself - in this case a father's appreciation of his daughters beauty - is so inherently suspect and foul, there can be no possible justification if it (when actually it's the accuser's mind that is exposed as foul through the perversion of the implied accusation).

And, once that subject had been identified by shaming alone, then the mind of the person who committed that general category violation is called into question. And note, at no time did the PC bastard making these condemnations ever address the specifics of the "violation" in a way that could be answered or discussed! That's because the reader is either "in" or "out" - the subject itself is irrelevant. Only loyalty to the accuser matters.

This IS the ESSENCE of political correctness - the demanding of mental obedience through shaming - and a perfect example of the PC sickness.

McCarthy is sick, mentally ill, and neither he nor his followers even realize it. They've drowned in the ocean of political correctness and died to their own consciences. And that insanity is exactly what Trump is smashing to pieces, and why all these PC drug addicts are screaming bloody murder over it.

49 posted on 03/05/2016 11:44:22 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: theoilpainter

Reality TV sells everywhere. Look at the number of threads about that duck dynasty dude getting suspended from A&E for saying he finds homosexual acts gross vs the first two actual states getting their marriage amendments overturned by federal judges. Both occurred at the same time. It was probably 20 to 1 in favor of the reality TV thing. And that’s on FR.

Freegards


50 posted on 03/05/2016 11:52:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Steelfish

Any culture rot is caused by the lack of culture by the TURD POTUS!


51 posted on 03/05/2016 11:52:30 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Talisker

Nothing wrong with shaming.

Wasn’t this the question directed at Sen. Joe McCarty: “Sir, “Have You No Sense of Decency.”

We all get it that the people are angry at the establishment. This is not the point.

But why vote for a vulgarian, a scam artist, a man who spins his positions faster than whirling dervishes and his supporters don’t notice; one who thinks Planned Parenthood does wonderful things, gives wads of cash to homosexual and lesbians groups; would like to muzzle the press; and barely if ever utters the words “liberty” and “freedom.

Wouldn’t we shame someone who supports a rapist? Of course we would. Shaming is a proper response to understand those who support a candidate who shames his own supporters by saying he “loves the least educated,” and that they would take a hail of bullets for him in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and they’d still vote for him. No shame?

Worse, he is the only Republican nominee, as seen in both Fox and CNN polls, as losing to Hillary. Enough said.


52 posted on 03/05/2016 12:00:31 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Wouldn’t we shame someone who supports a rapist? Of course we would.

Trump's not a rapist. But that was the implication in the quote where he appreciated his daughter's beauty, so thanks for illustrating and repeating that entire sordid lie, while supporting PC tactics to do it.

Worse, he is the only Republican nominee, as seen in both Fox and CNN polls, as losing to Hillary. Enough said.

Yeah, that's why the whole world is screaming at him - because he can't win. Enough said.

53 posted on 03/05/2016 12:05:28 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

“he appreciated his daughter’s beauty” and thoughts of dating her is the way to express this.

Good grief! Any McCarthy is is indeed right. Trump must be a creature of our culture.


54 posted on 03/05/2016 12:13:18 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

If my son, who has two young daughters ever said that I would be stunned. I just can’t imagine a father even thinking about a daughter in terms other than pride and love......but sizing her up for dating?

I noticed something very interesting during Greta’s interview with Melania, who I found to be terrific. During the interview she referred to their oung child, as “MY son”, MY boy, MY. child, every time she mentioned him. Not once did she say, OUR son, etc. I am betting, they had an agreement before marriage, since she was twenty years younger that she would only marry him if she could have a child. She had a baby one year after they married and he probably reluctantly agreed and therefore is less involved in parenting.


55 posted on 03/05/2016 12:27:06 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Steelfish
“he appreciated his daughter’s beauty” and thoughts of dating her is the way to express this. Good grief! Any McCarthy is is indeed right. Trump must be a creature of our culture.

No, it's your doubling down on slanderous misrepresentation, without feeling any of the shame you think is so great for others, that best represents everything that's wrong with our culture.

56 posted on 03/05/2016 12:34:10 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Toespi

This is so true!
Besides Melania herself came in through the H2-B visa category where a special allocation is made for “models.” You know, those jobs for which we don’t have qualified Americans.


57 posted on 03/05/2016 12:35:18 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

So Rubio makes the first crude implication.

Trump responds.

But in YOUR eyes, Trump is the crude one...

I’ll take you seriously when you direct your ire to the man who took the first step in that direction.

Until then, you’re a bully. A biased pontificate and you deserve no notice.


58 posted on 03/05/2016 1:04:01 PM PST by Marie (The vulgarians are at the gate! MAGA!)
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To: Marie

Trump responds with “phallic symbol” references and that’s ok with you? Wasn’t it Trump who spoke to Rubio’s “sweating” problem?


59 posted on 03/05/2016 1:08:37 PM PST by Steelfish
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60 posted on 03/05/2016 1:10:05 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (With Cruz You Get Rubio)
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