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Yahoo Hit Piece on CSGMAJ Basil L. Plumley, Ia Drang Valley
self | 5/18/2016 | Self

Posted on 05/19/2016 2:43:03 PM PDT by Little Bill

I saw an article on Yahoo Bashing SGTMAG Plumbley for being a Fake with an exaggerated record. What the hell started this?


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This was true the Army grape vine would have brought this up years ago.
1 posted on 05/19/2016 2:43:03 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill

A number of media sources are reporting there is an official Army investigation of whether Plumley wore and claimed awards unauthorized awards.


2 posted on 05/19/2016 2:49:38 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Little Bill

Smells like BS, Can you post the Yahoo article?


3 posted on 05/19/2016 2:49:55 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: Little Bill

They’ve also reported that the commander at Fort Benning has confirmed there are discrepancies in the records and that Plumley’s gravestone may have to be changed.


4 posted on 05/19/2016 2:56:32 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Little Bill; ALOHA RONNIE

Is Aloha Ronnie still around?


5 posted on 05/19/2016 2:58:14 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: GrootheWanderer
CSGMAJ Basil L. Plumley fought through the entire WWII conflict including 2 air drops into Italy, an air drop with the 82nd Airborne on D-Day and another air drop in Operation Market Garden.

He then fought in Korea including an airdrop with the 187th Infantry Regiment.

He was with the 7th Cav in the Battle of the Id Ia Drang Valley.

I'd say he earned his awards the hard way.

But this is the Obama Admin we are talking about so anything is possible.

6 posted on 05/19/2016 3:07:53 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraere)
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To: rdcbn

The Army’s investigation is looking at many of those claims.


7 posted on 05/19/2016 3:14:50 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: rdcbn

Yes,Basil Plumley had an amazing record.You don’t make CSGMAJ by faking it.At least not back when he was in active service.


8 posted on 05/19/2016 3:29:23 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: rdcbn
He was with the 7th Cav in the Battle of the Id Ia Drang Valley.

But not at the Battle of the Little Bighorn Valley ...

9 posted on 05/19/2016 3:30:16 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: GrootheWanderer

Doesn’t the army have copies of his records?

This sounds like a dust up that could be resolved by having some PFC wander down to the records and pull a jacket.

Why is this a big deal?


10 posted on 05/19/2016 3:32:53 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who dies)
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes, they do. And a researcher has found that those records don’t match some of Plumley’s claims. The commander at Fort Benning has said the records do appear to show that Plumley was not awarded a second Silver Star and that his Bronze Star did not have the “V” device and that may have to be corrected on his gravestone.

The man who uncovered that also claims that many of the other claims about Plumely cannot be supported by his records.


11 posted on 05/19/2016 3:38:21 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: IronJack

Custer was a p*ssy.


12 posted on 05/19/2016 3:50:47 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: ichabod1

we were once soldiers and we were young.
Colonel Hal Moore...

GREAT historical movie... watch it often.

thanks for reminding me...


13 posted on 05/19/2016 3:53:47 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

read the book...1000% times better...i have a copy autographed by Col Moore..


14 posted on 05/19/2016 4:01:59 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Little Bill

Awards he didn’t deserve? Doesn’t that qualify him for Secretary of State in the Obama administration?


15 posted on 05/19/2016 4:06:19 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Little Bill; rdcbn; GrootheWanderer

The guy behind this is a “professional” nitpicker who likes to find “faults/conspiracies.” The point here is that CSM Plumley was in the glider regiment of either the 101st or 82nd Airborne on D-Day and landed in Normandy on June 6, 1944 by glider rather than landed by parachute. I don’t know if Plumley landed in Holland by parachute or glider, but the glider guys also got extra pay. When it came to the Battle of the Bulge, both divisions were deployed from Mourmolon to the Ardennes by truck.


16 posted on 05/19/2016 4:14:56 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Haven’t we learned that people who brag about themselves tend to overstate their accomplishments.


17 posted on 05/19/2016 4:15:42 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who dies)
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To: Vermont Lt; GrootheWanderer

See my post # 16. Also, Plumley’s records are at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO. It is run by the National Archives and Records Administration. the only PFC’s there are “Proud, Fine, Civilians.”

Also, part of his allegation is that the ‘untruth’ is “officially” presented in the book and movie “We Were Soldiers.” Not exactly authoritative sources to cite when claiming there is an Army conspiracy.

I hopethat the Army Chief of Public Affairs or the CG of Human Resources Command, will end up calling out there to get a copy and respond to this allegation


18 posted on 05/19/2016 4:33:33 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ichabod1
On the contrary, he was a brilliant cavalry officer, tested repeatedly in battle during the Civil War and proven as a leader. That he erred at the Bighorn does not diminish his other accomplishments.

And he was far from the only commander who erred at the Bighorn.

19 posted on 05/19/2016 5:54:04 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Little Bill

As far as “Official Records” go, some of those were originally entered by some PFC in S-1 and signed by a 1St Sgt or 2nd Lt with a few dozen other things on his mind.

Individual decorations - sure. Someone has a photo you getting the award pinned on.

I have a Presidential Unit Citation which was in my SRB and is on my DD-214, but I can’t find any info or details of it with online records searches. I know when we were told we were getting it and what for, but I can’t find any “Official Records” other than my DD-214.

So, is it real, or am I just another candidate for some armchair JAG looking for ‘stolen valor’?


20 posted on 05/19/2016 8:27:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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