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Full count of those who died not finalized.
1 posted on 12/03/2016 6:49:19 AM PST by BlueStateRightist
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Again the Daily Mail scoops US news networks.


2 posted on 12/03/2016 6:50:59 AM PST by mware (RETIRED)
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Shhhhezz...condolences to the families


3 posted on 12/03/2016 6:51:05 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Breaking: 13 young men woke up in an unfamiliar apartment this morning, rolled over, and asked themselves...”What did I do????”
/unneeded.sarc.tag


4 posted on 12/03/2016 6:53:12 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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Sa this online earlier. Nothing on my local tv news about this.


5 posted on 12/03/2016 7:00:52 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Looked at the photos of the missing.

Maybe family should check wth these guys:

https://www.ringling.com


7 posted on 12/03/2016 7:04:13 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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I had a friend drag me to some “special” clubs in Chicago about ten years ago. Converted industrial properties, poor exits, bad lighting, no exit signs, no sprinklers in some cases, stuff pilled up that was probably in the way — in other words, a fire marshall’s nightmare.

I guess since I understand the building codes and spent my life in construction, I understand this stuff at a glance and know — duh, this place is too dangerous to occupy.


11 posted on 12/03/2016 7:10:07 AM PST by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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This is so sad! I hope the actual count does not rise. Very distressing after seeing the pics of the young people.


13 posted on 12/03/2016 7:13:21 AM PST by acoulterfan
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When I clicked on the link I thought it might be in England. “Clubbers” is not an American term.

Then I saw “Northern California” and I thought “It must be Oakland.”

Then I saw “Fruitvale”, and I thought “It must be the Satya Yuga space”.

It appears that it was. It is two doors down from the “Boost Mobile” store you can see in the pictures.

I first heard of it about two years ago from a flyer at Lake Merrit, advertising a rave. At that time I was not aware of its presence in the area.

I looked up the people running it. They seemed dodgy. I drove by the space. It seemed dodgy.

A review from 2015 by someone with an ax to grind who turned out to be prescient:

http://www.yellowpages.com/oakland-ca/mip/satya-yuga-502860330?lid=502860330

03/09/2015

Overall

[omitted]

DO NOT DO BUSINESS HERE.

Additionally, the place is an absolute deathtrap - one incident, and anybody unfortunate enough to be inside will be trapped in a mountain of trash and improvised construction.


16 posted on 12/03/2016 7:21:26 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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I'm thinking you'd have to be tuned up to spend a night in a public place listening to this.

Golden Donna

17 posted on 12/03/2016 7:23:07 AM PST by Stentor
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So, the place had no sprinklers, and apparently no working smoke alarms.

In prison-state California, was this an illegal operation?


24 posted on 12/03/2016 7:40:09 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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apparently, 1307 31st Avenue (near International Blvd.).

Google street view shows wood furniture and sculpture in the (closed) front metal roll-up entranceways.

100% silk and golden donna facebook entries do not appear to show any information relevant to the rave.

This video gives a flavor of the neighborhood (slow down, clyde carson ft. the team):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdqw-JzW08


26 posted on 12/03/2016 7:44:52 AM PST by SteveH
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Will be interesting to compare the national media coverage of this fire vs. the Gatlinburg fire last week.


29 posted on 12/03/2016 7:52:01 AM PST by Rebelbase (Gatlinburg wildfire: over 1000 homes and business damaged or destroyed.)
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Most people will walk by numerous marked exits to go out the door they entered.

These types of incidents can be traced back to chained exits, lack of situational awareness, and intoxication. Sometimes you get the pyrotechnics coupled with highly flammable wall coverings like the”Station” fire with White Snake.

It still boils down to lack of situational awareness.


30 posted on 12/03/2016 7:54:17 AM PST by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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9 dead and 25 unaccounted for at this point, per KTVU.

http://www.ktvu.com/breaking-news/221282720-story

Used to live in Oakland, down by Lake Merritt when I was a kid.


34 posted on 12/03/2016 8:05:50 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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East Bay Times article link

Oakland: at least nine dead after massive fire at live-work space party

By Harry Harris | hharris@bayareanewsgroup.com, Malaika Fraley | mfraley@bayareanewsgroup.com and Matthias Gafni | mgafni@bayareanewsgroup.com
PUBLISHED: December 3, 2016 at 4:14 am | UPDATED: December 3, 2016 at 7:59 am

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12/03/oakland-massive-fire-at-live-work-space-in-fruitvale-district/

live-work space is explicitly prohibited by San Francisco codes (in view of this accident, probably a good idea).

facebook event link

DEC 2
Golden Donna 100% Silk 2016 West Coast Tour

https://m.facebook.com/events/594396784086012/

(25 currently missing; list is actively being updated now)


37 posted on 12/03/2016 8:15:44 AM PST by SteveH
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Rave on, it’s a crazy feeling...


39 posted on 12/03/2016 8:22:41 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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This puts me in memory of the Station Nightclub fire in Rhode Island back in 2003. Same scenario.


44 posted on 12/03/2016 8:49:36 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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Check out this creepy picture on CNN:

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161203093356-oakland-california-building-fire-1203-overlay-tease.jpg

Lower and left of the flames is a creepy wall art image that is coming out of the fire.


45 posted on 12/03/2016 8:58:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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Prayers for the missing and the families of the deceased. I caught myself thinking “wow, they’re still doing that out there?” Then I realized how old I am, that everything old is new again, the 20 year cycle. I was just barely young enough to have caught the first round of raves and rave clubs back in the late 80’s - early 90’s.

Yes, there’s a contingent that is fairly drug saturated, just as there has always been in just about any nightclub of any sort. Many club kids delight in being weird, so much so that it becomes a form of conformity in itself. The environments are often DIY to the point of being dangerous, they’re on the edge of legality and conformity with fire safety laws. Some are “pirate,” not legal at all and proud of it, that libertarian or anarchist streak.

But for the grace of God, could have been me on any number of occasions. Last rave I attended was in 1999, northern CA in fact. Labor Day weekend. “Labor Of Love,” DJ Stompy Dig. Recall it well, oddly enough.


47 posted on 12/03/2016 9:05:26 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Jihadi arson?


48 posted on 12/03/2016 9:08:07 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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