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Meet Russia's A-10: The Sukhoi Su-25
Popular Mechanics ^ | 12-14-16 | Matthew Moss

Posted on 12/14/2016 3:39:55 PM PST by smokingfrog

At the height of the Cold War, the world's two superpowers created a new pair of battlefield aircraft, similar in both power and purpose. One was the U.S.'s revered A-10 Thunderbolt II, also known affectionately as the Warthog. Its Soviet cousin, originally revealed in 1981, was the Sukhoi Su-25 Grach. While the Soviet call sign "Grach" means "rook," the USSR's adversary NATO gave the Su-25 a much less imposing designation: the "Frogfoot."

The A-10 has become a legend—an iconic aircraft that can change the course of a battle with a strafing blast of its 30mm GAU-8 cannon, and fights on even today in the skies over Iraq and Syria. But make no mistake: Its Russian counterpart is a fearsome beast, too.

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More than a thousand Su-25s have been built since 1978 along with several variants. Modern Su-25s have an impressive array of countermeasures included a missile approach warning system, chaff and flare launchers, and an infrared jammer to confuse enemy missiles. Because the plane can both deliver and take a punch, countries like Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Ethiopia, and many former Soviet states also use Frogfoots.
1 posted on 12/14/2016 3:39:55 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Not as good as a warthog, but nothing is. But it’s a damn stout and simple little plane that’s deadly to ground forces.
A solid performance carrying the Il-2 mantle forward.


2 posted on 12/14/2016 3:49:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: smokingfrog

Exposed engines, easy heat signature whereas the A10’s are pretty much invisible.


3 posted on 12/14/2016 3:56:40 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: DesertRhino
NOTHING on the planet compares

Caution (or welcome, as the case may be) ... MEN .. talking.

4 posted on 12/14/2016 4:07:23 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: smokingfrog

Frogfoots are tough and can operate from crude forward airstrips, so far the comparison holds... but the A-10 with the GAU-8 Avenger Cannon and a full load of Mavericks is in a whole other league.


5 posted on 12/14/2016 4:16:29 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: DesertRhino

Re your comment “Not as good as a warthog” sums it up which is why the Air Farce planners and Secy want to get rid of it.

At least Sen. McCain called them on it despite their sneaky backdoor attempts to get rid of it.

He should have said “You’re Fired or will be, or will be tried for criminally negligent actions”.

The Air Force has been neutered almost as badly as the Navy.


6 posted on 12/14/2016 4:18:16 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SkyDancer

The A-10 engines stick out from the fuselage. How are they invisible?


7 posted on 12/14/2016 4:19:22 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

The A-10 engines stick out from the fuselage. How are they invisible?

They’re high bypass, for one.

Plus the exhaust flows between the twin stabilizers, effectively concealing the heat signature unless you’re looking straight on from behind.

There’s also the cloaking device...


8 posted on 12/14/2016 4:29:02 PM PST by lurk (TEat)
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To: smokingfrog


9 posted on 12/14/2016 4:35:47 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: lurk

Yeah, but they have to turn off the cloaking device to fire the photon torpedoes.


10 posted on 12/14/2016 4:39:51 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: DesertRhino
Yes, a modern day Sturmovik.


11 posted on 12/14/2016 4:44:53 PM PST by Bobalu (See liberal MSM heads explode...make Milo Yiannopoulos Trump's new Press Secretary!)
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To: smokingfrog

If you’ll look, they’re above and behind the wing so when the plane is coming at you the wing blocks the engines, you can’t see them. That was one of the selling points. Also the pilots know how to skid away from the target to keep those engines blocked using the wings to hide them.


12 posted on 12/14/2016 4:53:59 PM PST by SkyDancer
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The A-10 engines stick out from the fuselage. How are they invisible?

You got to stop hanging out with crack addicts...

I have never heard or read any suggestion that the A-10 is invisible.

Consider yourself the first ever.

13 posted on 12/14/2016 4:55:37 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911

The crack addicts are my best customers.


14 posted on 12/14/2016 5:26:55 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: publius911
See post #3, and work on reading comprehension!

Quote: ...whereas the A10’s are pretty much invisible.

15 posted on 12/14/2016 8:30:09 PM PST by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: smokingfrog

How powerful is the Frogfoot’s gun compared to the Warthog’s? Can it destroy tanks, for example?


16 posted on 12/14/2016 8:56:08 PM PST by Jacob Kell (A New Day has Dawned, let's Make America Great Again!)
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I think they’re both 30mm, but the Warthog can carry more ammo. Frogfoot has some smaller cannon that can be mounted on the wings. I don’t know if A-10 has anything like that.


17 posted on 12/15/2016 6:49:56 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog


New massive bomber they are working on, photo just leaked ...


18 posted on 12/15/2016 6:51:37 AM PST by Trump-a-licious
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To: Trump-a-licious

Awesome! And stealthy looking too!!


19 posted on 12/15/2016 6:54:00 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I know both their main guns are 30mm, but i was wondering about their combat performances. Namely if the Frogfoot’s can destroy tanks just like the Warthog’s.


20 posted on 12/15/2016 12:07:36 PM PST by Jacob Kell (A New Day has Dawned, let's Make America Great Again!)
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