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To: wardaddy

[[The anti Trumpers did not leave because they were run off]]

They weren’t just anti trumpers that left- things were so bad here that people stopped publishing comments- especially if they supported ted during the primaries- (Which is a far different thing than being an ‘anti-trumper’)- it became blatantly apparent that any kind of support for Ted during the primaries was a red flag to folks here on the site who supported trump-

[[After it became clear trump had it locked up]]

Sorry- but the animosity happened before the primaries were over- back when it looked like Ted still had a chance-

[[Then some continued bashing Trump]]

Some did- not all- Several tried bringing up how uncivil the forums had become and were relentle4ssly mocked and attacked- eventually giving their opus- some of these folks were not ‘anti-trump’ - They left because they saw what FR was becoming- making it more than clear why they were leaving in their threads- some of the threads were so nasty that mods had to delete them- Several tried to bring the issue up but were suspended-

[[Then some continued bashing Trump and got warning zots and the permanent zots ]]

Again- the issue wasn’t about those few republicans who were actively trying to subvert the election- some folks rightfully were banned- we’re talking about people during the primaries who simply felt Ted was the right choice-

I went through the threads where sum of these folks were zotted or simply left- or posted their opuses because this issue was tearing the site apart during that time— and went through their posting histories during this time- and some of these folks were not ‘never-trump’- because folks kept claiming they were zotted because they were ‘rapid never trumpers’- i knew several of the folks, and never knew them to be ‘rabid anti-trumpers’- I even pointed out in several threads that nothing i could find supported that accusation-

[[The anti Trumpers did not leave because they were run off...they left because they don’t want to be where Trump is applauded]]

We’re not talking about rabid ‘never trumpers’ - many folks that have left because of what transpired here supported Ted during the primaries BUT accepted Donald as the people’s choice- In the big picture- Most republicans who supported Ted were not ‘never-trumpers’- they were ‘never hillary’ first and foremost and they accepted that the people as a whole, felt that trump was the choice needed- they may not have agreed- but they accepted it-

If you go back and go through the opuses that were done back then- not all the folks leaving were never trump-

Every election you are going to have ‘never so and sos’ but in the end most republicans end up accepting whoever the nominee is because they are first and foremost ‘never - democrats’

[[so you have to wonder about their judgment about what is conservative]]

Not really- Donald either intentionally or unintentionally portrayed some less than solid conservative stances optically- to an objective observer- it leaves them scratching their heads- His supporters of course dismiss the optics and claim he is ‘just toying with the left’ (And maybe he is- some objective observers however don’t know for sure however at this point, and are worried about it- the reality is that he has work to do to convince folks he’s onboard- I personally think he is- although admittedly some of the things He’s done like meeting with gore and decrapio are a bit troubling- I realize he hired a man who does not support the idea that man is causing climate change but then again he’s also hired on another fella who thinks we are- can’t remember his name right now- true- that fella doesn’t have a position where he can influence directly as part of his job- but it’;s the optics that have people a bit nervous-)

I’ve been here since the Bush term- lurking mostly- been through several elections- Yes- it always get heated- but i have not witnessed republicans turning on each other like i did during this last election (The one minor exception was when romney ran and folks were trying to make the case that as bad as he was- he was still preferable to the commie traitor that was his opponent- but even those debates didn’t rise to the level of hostility and nastiness that was witnessed here (and note I’m not singling out this site- MANY sites got very nasty- even fox news turned very very ugly on both sides- Passions were at an all time high (in recent memory) because of the crap we all had been through for the last 8 years with the current administration and his systematic assault on this country-

Trump is right when he states there was a ‘movement like never before’- and the reason is because people were very angry about the state of affairs this country was in-

anyway- I’ve said my piece-


229 posted on 12/21/2016 9:59:47 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434; wardaddy; Travis McGee

“Yes- it always get heated- but i have not witnessed republicans turning on each other like i did during this last election “

Then you’re not aware of how ugly things got here when howlin and her GOPe mob ruled the roost during Dubya.

I lost count of how many of my freeper pals got zotted, especially for having the audacity to complain about illegal immigration. Wardaddy and Travis McGee know this all too well, having been victims of one of these purges.

That mob did us all a favor when they abandoned FR for Wideawakes, where their revolution devoured itself.


230 posted on 12/21/2016 11:44:53 AM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: Bob434; Pelham
Dang Bobby you had me fooled for a second.....shit son you were just another anti Trumper.....no wonder your Trump history is so myopic...so how are you now on Donald

To: McGruff [[Ever hear Trump say anything bad about Cruz? Ever hear Cruz say anything bad about Trump? Ever wonder why?]] It’s because Cruz stands to pick up all the disgruntled voters who are going for trump when trump flames out or gets torn down by some scandal- Cruz is much like trump inthat he commands the respect of people who are fed up with businesss as usual in government, only cruz is a professional while trump is a one shot wonder who will likely fizzle out as people begin to realize he really isn’t presidential material 50 posted on 8/13/2015, 12:35:21 PM by Bob434 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: jpsb

To: JediJones Yep- trump is no conservative- and I’m not sure why conservatives are flocking to his side right now- I guess maybe because they think he’s a brilliant businessman who can get this ocutnry back to ‘the good times’ we knew in the 80’s-90’s when life was easy-ish I really believe trump will turn once in office- He’ll say what he needs to to win, then his true colors will be exposed- He might do the country some good financially, but the rest of his positions are no better than, and often worse than, the rino positions- 63 posted on 8/13/2015, 1:02:45 PM by Bob434 ( person running,) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

You really oughta bone up in free republic history

232 posted on 12/21/2016 3:10:10 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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