I am still waiting for the Cowboys and Mooselimbs to get started...
Muster up Diaper Heads, form a line.
Now that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard about Martin Luther. Just because people tried to appropriate his name and fame later on in History does not mean Luther would have agreed with anything they said and did. With respect to Hitler’s comment, the whole concept of getting rid of the Bible would be 100% opposite of what Luther stood for, i.e. subordinating everything to the Bible and bringing it to the people. One of the chief slogans of the Reformation was not sola scriptura for nothing.
yeah, this writer can be a little shoe-batty
Complete and unadulterated bullcrap.
Luther has been dead for 500 years. No evil done in any time since he died can legitimately be laid at his feet.
This is just anti-Protestant hate mongering.
And it doesn't take much to figure out it's source.
We could be heading into The Big One. God Knows the Globalists are not going to go quietly.
This is one of the lamest articles I’ve ever seen. Unless the author can substantiate their claim this article belongs on the Onion. Not. FR.
We DO???
Well, since only one nation on earth ever became Fascist, and it quickly lost and failed, and not one singe national movement has taken place yet in the 70 years since, would be a significant indicator that Fascism isn't on the rise.
What is the source of fear? The Shoebats are working for the wrong side.
As for his latest:
we see the ideological link between Luther’s revolution and Nazi thought. In the uprising of Germany, be it in the First World War or the Second World War, we see Luther at the heart of the ideological aspiration of imperialism, Darwinism, and the desire to exterminate and conquer one’s enemies.
Luther, imperialism? He did not even consider his canon binding, and was hardly some pope. In contrast,
It follows that the Church is essentially an unequal society, that is, a society comprising two categories of per sons, the Pastors and the flock...the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors . - VEHEMENTER NOS, an Encyclical of Pope Pius X promulgated on February 11, 1906.
Epistola Tua: To the shepherds alone was given all power to teach, to judge, to direct; on the faithful was imposed the duty of following their teaching, of submitting with docility to their judgment , and of allowing themselves to be governed, corrected, and guided by them in the way of salvation.
Thus, it is an absolute necessity for the simple faithful to submit in mind and heart to their own pastors, and for the latter to submit with them to the Head and Supreme Pastor.... Similarly, it is to give proof of a submission which is far from sincere to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them; and in some ways they resemble those who, on receiving a condemnation, would wish to appeal to a future council, or to a Pope who is better informed.
On this point what must be remembered is that in the government of the Church, except for the essential duties imposed on all Pontiffs by their apostolic office, each of them can adopt the attitude which he judges best according to times and circumstances. Of this he alone is the judge. It is true that for this he has not only special lights, but still more the knowledge of the needs and conditions of the whole of Christendom, for which, it is fitting, his apostolic care must provide. - Epistola Tua (1885), Apostolic Letter of Pope Leo XIII; http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=403215&language=en >
For it is quite foreign to everyone bearing the name of a Christian to trust his own mental powers with such pride as to agree only with those things which he can examine from their inner nature, and to imagine that the Church, sent by God to teach and guide all nations, is not conversant with present affairs and circumstances; or even that they must obey only in those matters which she has decreed by solemn definition as though her other decisions might be presumed to be false or putting forward insufficient motive for truth and honesty.
Quite to the contrary, a characteristic of all true followers of Christ, lettered or unlettered, is to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff, who is himself guided by Jesus Christ Our Lord. - CASTI CONNUBII, ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI; https://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19301231_casti-connubii.html
• Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council, 1215:
Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure, that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful, so for the defense of the faith they ought publicly to take an oath that they will strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church; so that whenever anyone shall have assumed authority, whether spiritual or temporal, let him be bound to confirm this decree by oath.
But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated by the metropolitan and the other bishops of the province. If he refuses to make satisfaction within a year, let the matter be made known to the supreme pontiff, that he may declare the ruler’s vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance and preserve it in the purity of faith; the right, however, of the chief ruler is to be respected as long as he offers no obstacle in this matter and permits freedom of action.(http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/lateran4.asp)
Pope "Innocent" IV, Ad extirpanda:
Damasus 1 (366-384) On Sunday, October 1 his partisans seized the Lateran Basilica, and he was there consecrated. He then sought the help of the city prefect (the first occasion of a Pope in enlisting the civil power against his adversaries), and he promptly expelled Ursinus and his followers from Rome. Mob violence continued until October 26, when Damasus's men attacked the Liberian Basilica, where the Ursinians had sought refuge; the pagan historian Ammianus Marcellinus reports that they left 137 dead on the field. Damasus was now secure on his throne; but the bishops of Italy were shocked by the reports they received, and his moral authority was weakened for several years....
Damasus was indefatigable in promoting the Roman primacy...— Kelly, J. N. D. (1989). The Oxford Dictionary of Popes. USA: Oxford University Press. pp. 32 ,34;
The popes were potentates, and began to behave like it. Damasus perfectly embodied this growing grandeur. An urbane career cleric like his predecessor Liberius, at home in the wealthy salons of the city, he was also a ruthless power-broker, and he did not he did not hesitate to mobilize both the city police and [a hired mob of gravediggers with pickaxes] to back up his rule…
Self-consciously, the popes began to model their actions and their style as Christian leaders on the procedures of the Roman state. — Eamon Duffy “Saints and Sinners”, p. 37,38
The Bishop of Rome assumed [circa sixth century] the position of Ponlifex Maximus, priest and temporal ruler in one, and the workings of this so-called spiritual kingdom, with bishops as senators, and priests as leaders of the army, followed on much the same lines as the empire. The analogy was more complete when monasteries were founded and provinces were won and governed by the Church. - Welbore St. Clair Baddeley, Lina Duff Gordon, “Rome and its story” p. 176
And as the foremost Luther quote checker states,
...if this quote from Hitler is supported by it's original context, it demonstrates Hitler appears to not have a clue in regard to Luther: "I do insist on the certainty that sooner or later—once we hold power—Christianity will be overcome and the German church, without a Pope and without the Bible, and Luther, if he could be with us, would give us his blessing."
Luther would approve of a German church without a Bible? I don't think so.
More here on this Nazi-Luther issue, but God's grace, while in balance with Luther's anti-Judaism anger, is The Popes Against the Jews
In addition, Hitler was not proChristian or priLuther, though as a politician, he could invoke faith. But he was a pagan:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941
10th October, 1941, midday
14th October, 1941, midday
19th October, 1941, night
21st October, 1941, midday
13th December, 1941, midnight
14th December, 1941, midday
9th April, 1942, dinner
27th February, 1942, midday
"For their interests [the Church's] cannot fail to coincide with ours [the National Socialists] alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life".
Both of these quotes are from Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, Oxford University Press, 1942, cited in an Internet article by Doug Krueger.
Another interesting quote from Hitler is found in a book by Albert Speer, Hitler's Minister of Armaments:
And what one fill find in this history, is that the roots of Protestantism is gnosticism, or the belief that Christ was not physical, but a phantom. To reject the physical Humanity of Christ, would then lead to the rejection of the Eucharist, icons, holy water, and Confession. In other words, they rejected the tangible.
Which is absurd, for rejecting the Cath Eucharist, icons, holy water, and Confession to priests, which among other things, are not seen in the NT church , is hardly gnosticism, and instead Reformers contended for the incarnation.
However, while within Gnosticism you had the belief that what Christ looked and behaved like, as manifestly being incarnated with a tangible real body of flesh and blood, was not real (Christ being a sort of phantom but looking human), in Catholic Eucharistic theology you have the belief that (in transubstantiation) what Christ looks, feels, tastes and would test as (bread and wine), is not the reality (Christ's corporeal body and blood only looking like bread and wine). And conversely, that the bread and wine is no longer real/existis, but only looks, feels, tastes, etc. like the real thing.
Take about rejecting the tangible! But shoebat will not let me comment on his site.
The rest of his propaganda is so prolix it is more spin than i have energy to go thru.
What do people think of his assertion that the 666 of Revelation is really arabic for “In the name of Allah; Islam”?
He tells how he went to see the Codex Vaticanus, the original Greek document of Revelation, and realized that since John did not know Arabic, he read the three symbols he had seen in his vision as Greek words for numbers instead of what they really were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_09o5j_pY