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As regards bullet point #45:

Federal Judge James Robart overturning this Executive Order is the first substantial challenge to President Trump. There will be many more, but this is the first.

A view of it from my perspective:

The language of the law is quite clear. The President can decide who, if anyone, is allowed to immigrate. Period. However, the left has never been a fan of the Rule of Law.
I read that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals delayed the Emergency Stay, intended to counter the Judge James Robart's order, with an eye towards a ruling Monday or Tuesday. This is the 9th Circuit, so I expect them to uphold the Judge Robart's ruling.
This will, then, get appealed to SCOTUS. If it is slow-walked, we might be able to get Gorsuch appointed by then. The buzz is he will make it in by April or May. Otherwise, we get a 4-4 split Scotus decision -- unless Kennedy breaks to the side of the Rule of Law. He has before, he may again.
Even if this becomes a SCOTUS split-decision, where the lower court ruling stands, it is only a temporary glitch. A split SCOTUS decision will only postpone the inevitable, the language of the law is quite clear. Since SCOTUS will have rendered no decision, the case can be brought again (perhaps through the venue of the Federal Judge who agreed that President Trump can actually do Presidential duties), and this ‘push’ will be rectified when we get Gorsuch (April to May of this year).
This is where Obama and Trump differ. Let us say the roles were reversed, and Obama wanted this Executive Order to be carried out. Obama would purposefully pack the crew being imported with hardcore terrorists (and maybe even equip them and instruct them to act immediately) to show how right he was. He'd gladly let America take a few shots to get his way (eventually). Trump won't.
Trump could take some strong actions, such as banning ALL immigration, but I feel that would be very bad optics. If I'm him, I let it play out. We win in the end.

1 posted on 02/05/2017 4:00:34 AM PST by Lazamataz

To: Windflier; mcmuffin; oldvirginian; HoneysuckleTN; Pollster1; newbie 10-21-00; Tennessee Nana; ...

See my comments below the win list.

2 posted on 02/05/2017 4:01:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

To: LS; Travis McGee; Jim Robinson; Squantos; Southack

See my comments below the win list.

3 posted on 02/05/2017 4:02:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

The person or people that WILL DIE as a result of the court ruling and the having to wait months, dont win out.

Of course I’m not certain one of these guys are gonna murder an American, but would anyone be shocked that some heinous crimes are committed by the guys the judge let back in?

it sucks. He’s a liberal judge so he doesn’t give a #### about American dying.

4 posted on 02/05/2017 4:04:57 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

Good morning. I hope you have a beautiful day!

5 posted on 02/05/2017 4:05:19 AM PST by Tax-chick ("If you think free speech is assault but assault is free speech, you're a moron.")

Not Tired Of Winning Yet

9 posted on 02/05/2017 4:13:49 AM PST by mazda77

28 posted on 02/05/2017 4:35:27 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)

Wow. Quite the list and we are 2 weeks in from the opening bell. :-)

32 posted on 02/05/2017 4:45:11 AM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)

Good morning bump to you.

5.56mm

33 posted on 02/05/2017 4:54:08 AM PST by M Kehoe

36 posted on 02/05/2017 5:05:18 AM PST by Tennessee Nana

Federal Judge James Robart - a bowtie and a beard are trademarks of the blowhard.

America’s robed mullahs ALERT!

38 posted on 02/05/2017 6:01:52 AM PST by PGalt (HOORAY President Donald J. Trump)

This is so upsetting.

Why can’t he fire these Federal Judges that don’t follow our laws and appoint ones that will?!

39 posted on 02/05/2017 7:23:15 AM PST by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)

Excellent thread and analysis!

42 posted on 02/05/2017 7:48:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

I’m a winner too.

You're a WINNER!

43 posted on 02/05/2017 7:54:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

To: reformed_dem

I’m not tired of winning yet!!!!! Please add me!

You're a WINNER!

44 posted on 02/05/2017 7:55:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

To: proud2beconservativeinNJ

Please make me “urine”

Urine the WINNERS CIRCLE!

45 posted on 02/05/2017 7:56:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

Okay, add me!

You're a WINNER!

46 posted on 02/05/2017 7:57:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

Add me please!

You're a WINNER!

47 posted on 02/05/2017 7:57:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (I hereby coin a new Internet acronym: NTOWY -- Not Tired Of Winning Yet.)

Thanks for that analysis.

Meanwhile, anyone with a visa can now get in? Are visas even harder to get? Any vetting at all going on yet?

50 posted on 02/05/2017 9:33:59 AM PST by Yaelle

thanks for the analysis - and yes, let’s slow-walk this if there’s any hint that the Supremes won’t go at least 6-2 in his favor. The nation, in the long run, needs to retain this authority in the executive branch and the pure hatred for Trump, on the side of the liberals, is no reason to change that.

NTOWY

51 posted on 02/05/2017 9:44:46 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)

"•Trump could take some strong actions, such as banning ALL immigration, but I feel that would be very bad optics.
If I'm him, I let it play out.
We win in the end."

Except the news this morning is 100,000 (!) visas were issued to people from those banned countries.
100,000 seems like a lot of people we know nothing about from countries overrun by terrorists.

Not certain if we really have all the time in the world.

53 posted on 02/05/2017 10:01:46 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)

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