Posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368
Yep, it was the Freedom Caucus that produced a loser of a bill without getting input from, or agreements from the different factions inside the Republican party. After all, everyone knows Republicans do socialism better. It was the Freedom caucus that spent seven years completely caving to Obama. It was the Freedom Caucus that spent seven years running on repealing Obamacare “root and branch” only be caught flat footed when the opportunity arose. There is plenty of blame to go around, but this failure is not solely the fault of the Freedom Caucus.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Doing the right thing did not connect them in any way shape or form to the program that is on its way to collapse.
Except in the minds of the free traitors and other globalists.
And to think it was the Freedom Caucus that helped get Ryan in there in the first place.
The word is everything, it wasn’t going to fix everything. But it was at least headed in the right direction. But WOOHOO, you and the commie left have a lot to celebrate tonight, yeah.
I am paying more too but this wasn’t good legislation.
It’s not an end game. I don’t know if you recall but obamacare went down early too but was passed soon afterwards. There will be more legislation that comes along in the not too distant future and I believe it will be better.
Could still pull off a win if it takes down Ryan, that jackass bastard.
From what I am reading in the news, the RINO’s voted YES today and many conservatives from Freedom caucus voted NO.
The Ryan bill was nothing like what I want, as will be obvious by reading my profile. But if the Ryan bill passed, it would have got rid of the mandate, and that would have allowed me to dump my very expensive insurance and shop for less expensive insurance. Now I am forced to but coverages I do not need at my age in 70’s.
The unconstitutional mandate remained in this stupid bill.
That is why conservatives jumped Ryan’s ship.
Repeal, don’t replace.
Yes, you have made it clear that you want some remnant of Obamacare, but conservatives do not.
And then he betrayed them — stabbing them in the back— that sorry thankless bastard. Never again!!
Don’t be a dumbass. I am not celebrating anything. It was bad legislation. There are more opportunities for better legislation. It will come.
Well, the process can’t end here, even with Ryno talking as if it has. The libs did this deliberately.
We have a Country where half if not more of the Population thinks someone else owes them a Living.
They call it the Government, and it exists to make sure Life isn’t difficult and that everything is someone else’s fault.
We as Conservatives understand that the Government does not earn a living. It just steals money from the Productive Citizenry and hands it off to the modern day Loyalists who fight every day to expand its power.
My Mother always used to say, you help People who can’t help themselves, not People who won’t help themselves.
Bear in mind, her Sister, my Aunt lost her Sight to Glaucoma in her late Teens and still worked every day Sewing Clothes in what we would now call a Sweatshop.
She only stopped Working when she Married her Husband when she was in her early 40’s. Must be why I have little patience for Liberal whiners who have no idea how fortunate they are.
Liberals don’t like the term “help”. They prefer to make everything in Life a “Right”. Food, Housing, Healthcare, Job (just kidding), Cell Phones, Internet Access, the list is endless. Obamacare is just another Right, especially the part of Obamacare that’s Free, Medicaid.
Meanwhile, Productive People pay for it. Personally, Obamacare has cost my Wife and I about $30,000 since it caused us to lose our Insurance Plan back in December 2013.
We had to find new Insurance and our Premiums are over double what they were back then, costing us an additional $12,000 a Year.
The Congress critters don’t hear our stories at their Townhalls, only the Liberal whiners who say Obamacare saved their Lives like we had no Healthcare before it came along.
The secret is, we had it but they never wanted to pay for it, and they still don’t.
Sorry for the rant. Once I get started... LOL
Obamacare can not collapse, so long as the gubbermint has the money printing press. Watch the republicans fund whatever Obamacare needs.
There is no collapse. If you took the time to study the budget and how it is funded, you would know this.
It doesn’t matter what Obamacare costs. Treasury will issue bonds to pay for it. Y’all might want to stop thinking of govt spending as “the taxpayers’ money”. It’s more like Quantitative Ease money. 25% of GDP in 6 yrs was created from thin air.
Why not just kill taxes? Because that risks the narrative of normalcy.
But I digress. There is no implode. There is no collapse. The Fed has infinite money and their responsibility, as they demonstrated in 2007/8/9 is to guard against systemic risk. If Obamacare creates systemic risk, they fund the bonds that pay for it.
You guys are just delusional. You would be less so if you stopped reading blogs by other delusional right wing seekers-of-clicks and just study the budget.
The Republicans, represented by Mr. Ryan (and that is almost all of them in Congress)lost. I think Trump won. I am curious to see what he makes of it. I am happy to see him keep his promises, even where I think he is wrong, because if or when it comes up a clunker he will change it rather than double down on a failure.
But maybe you can answer my question did any of the FC members vote for Ryan as speaker?
Including the GOP bills to fully fund Obamacare?
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Yep. The GOPe was talking a tough game like they wanted to do something but really didn’t. That’s why they pushed an obamacare lite bill.
Yeah, you keep believing that. It’s over, your side gave the left all they needed to ruin what could of been a great thing.
Oh, and in the context of “it was a bad bill” . . . well, if you can’t get a majority then it probably was a bad bill.
But none of the wackos offered up anything else that could get through the Senate.
And for God’s sake stop with the “we passed repeal only bills 5 times!!!” crap. You know damn well no one took those seriously because Obama would not sign them. They were a waste of time, but the GOP donors had to be fed red meat. With Trump prez, putting those bills up would have failed the House far worse as all the NY and Cali guys would say no. There are 33 competitive districts. No way in hell they would say yes. That’s more No’s than the Koch funded Freedom Caucus had. And of course no way to get 60 in the Senate. Hell, not even 50, with Collins out there and worse Flake won his seat with only 46%, and Heller is in a solid Blue state now and up in 2018, too.
You could not even get 50 with that crap.
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