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Guardrail is defective yet DOT bills dead teen for destruction.

Tell me what is with America and bad roads? We have this problem in West Virginia thought it was just an isolated case can see clearly it's not. Why is it that America has roads that are worse than a Third World Country? This should not be.

1 posted on 03/25/2017 9:59:36 AM PDT by Morgana
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Mark Nagi said the bill was sent out due to an error in processing, and that TDOT was very sorry for it. Nagi said Eimers would not have to pay the bill.

Probably computer generated. Computers know no compassion and only follow the instructions and guidelines set up by code created by programmers. Now if it was a human that issued the bill, one would have to ask how they thought a dead person was going to pay the bill!!

"That was a mistake," said Nagi. "It never should have happened. We'll take measures to make sure that never happens again."

2 posted on 03/25/2017 10:09:48 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Why is it that America has roads that are worse than a Third World Country?

Why waste infrastructure money on infrastructure?

3 posted on 03/25/2017 10:11:09 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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This is a nation wide problem. Look at the American Center for Justice article on defective guardrails.

You are more likely to be impailed on that guardrail than helping protect you in a crash.

5 posted on 03/25/2017 10:13:48 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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Looked up a number of stories on the accident. None of the stories had any info on how/why the driver came to leave the roadway.


6 posted on 03/25/2017 10:14:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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I don’t know the details of this crash, but I am in insurance claims & pay for guard rails in fatality accidents all the time.


11 posted on 03/25/2017 10:19:11 AM PDT by mykroar (Congratulations President Trump)
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You must have never traveled to a third world country ...


12 posted on 03/25/2017 10:19:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“Why is it that America has roads that are worse than a Third World Country? This should not be. “

Because we have to pay practically every foreign country on earth welfare including everyone here who has managed to fall across the border and also multi-generational under achievers who drop a baby every nine months. Oh, don’t forget the Mohair subsidies either.


14 posted on 03/25/2017 10:31:46 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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Somebody please help me here. What is it about the stripes on the guardrail that have to be removed? I don’t get it.....thanks


17 posted on 03/25/2017 10:57:49 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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I had a d discussion with someone in a town government responsible for road repair.

I am always curious as to what percentage of funds allocated for actual cost of products to maintain something is, so I asked.

He said for money allocated to road repair, only about 40-50% is actually used for materials. So 50-60% goes to contractors to cover worker salaries, equipment and profits.

To compound the problem, in his case he covers 56 miles of town road. But with the budget he is given each year he can only repair 2-3 miles of road a year. I said so this means to deal with everything you’re talking 56 miles of pothole patches, and he said yeah, pretty much.


21 posted on 03/25/2017 11:34:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Tennessee does have some poorly designed interstates and highways especially in East Tennessee around Knoxville. Becks Curve on US 25W in Anderson County is a killer. This was basically used for I-75 before I-75 was built. The TN-33 Bridge replacement in Union County. Work was stopped because they got to close to the still in use old bridge making it unsound and had to be redesigned. Worse part is they left the killer curves there as well. It's a new bridge on a two lane highway now carrying 4 lane traffic loads.

Also on TN-33 & US 441 intersection in Knox County has been under construction for about 5 years now and still no end in sight. I-75 from Jellico to Knoxville was done in less time once construction began. The Spur Interstate aka old I-75 between I-640 and I-40 is another design goof. Coster Shops which was a railroad maintenance yard still existed sorta when the new bridge was built. The bridge is OK but the six lane from the bridge to I-40 is pitched wrong at the Oldham/Woodland ave exit curve. That route serves four hospital routes ambulances take.

In Knox County West Raccoon Valley Road has a railroad bridge that is completely blind and one lane shared by east and west bound traffic and this is a state highway dump trucks and garbage trucks use to the tune of one truck per minute at least in the day time. Chapman Highway in Knoxville hasn't been upgraded thanks to the bicycle and joggers as well as environmentalist who are against another road into south Knoxville to ease traffic Congestion. Then the real good one Cumberland Ave in Knoxville or as it's called at UT The Strip. The city, state, and federal government, ceded one lane of it both ways to the university for it's environmental Green Nonsense. That road is a route to access two hospital in that area.

23 posted on 03/25/2017 12:29:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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You can thank the collusion between unions and politicians for the state we are in.


26 posted on 03/25/2017 12:48:35 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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Ends of guardrails are curved over and down into the ground here in NC, on multilane highways at least. On rural roads I’m sure there are still old style guardrails that could impale a car running head on into the end of it.


27 posted on 03/25/2017 12:49:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Just another excuse for a lawsuit. You can't cover every contingency to save someone from themselves in every situation. Gaurdrails save some lives but not all. The whole key to success here is to try to keep your car between the ditches, and try to avoid driving into things with black and red stripes. It's sad but the kid could have maybe driven a little slower or something. It would cost untold trillions of dollars to make every part of every road perfectly safe, no matter what. What are you going to do rubber pad them?
29 posted on 03/25/2017 1:44:00 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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There are plenty of roads without guardrails. It’s up to the driver to drive according to the conditions.


30 posted on 03/25/2017 1:47:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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When you damage government property in an accident you get billed for it. It’s unfortunate she died, but she still must have done something wrong to hit that gaurdrail, which he says is defective but probably isn’t.


32 posted on 03/25/2017 1:55:22 PM PDT by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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It is a really stupid design, best to avoid hitting it. However, sometimes perfectly safe and competent drivers are caught up in stupid people’s accidents.


33 posted on 03/25/2017 2:44:58 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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