Advice from cops: Don’t talk to cops

Learn Liberty ^ | January 31, 2017 | James Duane

[Roccus]

I think we got crossed up there, but...whatever

Have a nice day

[Sopater]

All over this country, prison cells are filled with innocent people falsely convicted for crimes they did not commit, and many of them will spend the rest of their lives regretting the day they agreed to talk to the police.

No hyperbole there, no agenda either, I'm sure.

It's true. Just ask those who fill the prison cells... they'll tell you.

[thoughtomator]

Time for you to wake up and smell the coffee.

Very few people in prison today have gotten a trial. The US “justice” system, exceeding the Nazi courts in their conviction rate, gives people a choice of pleading guilty or having outrageously draconian sentences imposed on them in these mockeries of trials where the judge and prosecutor are often good friends - and unless you’re wealthy enough to afford a good lawyer (95% of Americans aren’t), that’s your choice. Whether you are guilty or not.

[Sopater]

So you get pulled over for a speeding ticket ...

“may I see your driver’s license and registration, please?”

(frozen silence)

Yeah, right. :-)

Yeah, I've often wondered how that scenario might eventually end up. I haven't had the nerve to try it, myself.

[Sopater]

true. even better advice: if cops are talking to you, you should be talking to God.

... True. You had better already have a well established relationship with Him, too.

[antidisestablishment]

[Forgotten Amendments]

You should tell Martha Stewart that. Remember she didn’t go down for insider trading, she went down for lying to investigating officers.

And who was the intrepid officer who tricked her into "false statements" and sent this dangerous thug to prison?

[Boogieman]

The cops’ main job is to make arrests and close cases. They don’t necessarily care if the arrests are legitimate, or they get the right perp. As long as they can rack up the statistics, and the cases don’t all fall apart at trial, they won’t have to eat **** from their superiors and they can get promoted.

That’s not to say some don’t have nobler motivations, but the entire system is designed to pressure them to take the path of least resistance and pin crimes on whoever they can pin them on, using all the leeway that the courts have provided them.

[Boogieman]

[jr3000]

I never take people’s word on anything, so I looked up criminal statutes. Each state has their own. I tried reading them. Its not possible to read all of them. One page is one very long page. And there are many pages. And of course many chapters.... you get the idea.
But look it up and at least read topics you are interested in. From just the contents table, you can conclude for yourself that picking your nose in a certain direction can land you in jail. You can be thrown in jail for scratching your arse.

[Moltke]

Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

Someone had copied and reposted the one that was removed.

As a perhaps sad side note, if that is the original video, it has only had 208k views since 2012, while some 'hip' kid gathers 100s of thousands views in a matter of days. Talk about getting priorities wrong...

[jr3000]

So what happened to the guy who wouldn’t roll down his window?

[Boogieman]

Yep, I’ve seen police officers make up statements and lie on the stand under oath. Contradicted by multiple witnesses, but the court gives more weight to their testimony anyway.

[Darksheare]

Thanks!

[aquila48]

“All over this country, prison cells are filled with innocent people falsely convicted for crimes they did not commit”

You really believe that? He makes it sound like the majority of people in prison are innocent.

[Mr. Douglas]

You really believe that?

Yes, I do.

He makes it sound like the majority of people in prison are innocent.

That is only your inference. It is not the way I took it at all. He didn't say "prisons are filled". He said "prison cells are filled". And I believe that every prison in this nation has at least one prisoner who is innocent of the crime for which he is serving time. And an experienced criminal trial attorney would be able to tell you stories about guys he KNOWS are guilty and got off as well as guys that he KNOWS were innocent, but are doing the time.

[Boogieman]

Most reasonable people know “don’t talk to the cops” means don’t tell them any more than you are legally required to. You’re legally required to show them your license and registration.

You’re not legally required to tell them where you’re going, where you are coming from, why you “look nervous”, or any of the myriad other questions they always ask to try and trip you up during a traffic stop so they can claim probable cause to search you on a fishing expedition.

[plain talk]

I guess I have always been cooperative with law enforcement and answered any questions they have. But I know there are paranoid anti-law people out there with their pot in their trailer, etc.

[Bearshouse]

"I was only going 75 in a 55 zone"

Something very similar happened to me. I have 7 or 8 miles on a hwy with a 65 mph on my way to work in the morning. I usually leave home around 5:30 so the traffic is light. One morning I hit the city limits where the mph drops down to 55 and forgot to release the cruise control, so naturally I got pulled over right away. I knew what I had done and that I was speeding, so expected to get a 10 mile over limit ticket. To my shock I got a 20 mile over limit ticket and he wasn't interested in what my cruise had been set on. I had the speedometer checked a day later and it was fine.

BTW there is no wiggle room when it is just your word against the cop. His word counts for more.

[Moltke]

“All over this country, prison cells are filled with innocent people falsely convicted for crimes they did not commit”

You really believe that? He makes it sound like the majority of people in prison are innocent.

(Tongue-in-cheek) Note that there is no qualifier (such as "many" or "most") to "prison cells". "2" would make that a true statement. (It's almost as if I had a Jesuit education - which I didn't ;-))