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April 1857
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Posted on 04/01/2017 7:29:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I just finished this book about General Thomas Meagher (as will be in a few years). He and General Sherman deeply disliked one another.

21 posted on 04/05/2017 5:58:52 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick

Curious. Meagher does not appear in the index of the McDonough bio.


22 posted on 04/05/2017 6:05:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Too minor a figure in the trajectory of Sherman’s career, perhaps. They crossed paths early in the Civil War, when the Union army was just getting going, and at the end of Meagher’s life, when he was territorial governor of Montana.


23 posted on 04/05/2017 6:10:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: colorado tanker

“Without guns there’s no freedom.” —”TURN”, 3rd Seas, Epi 9


24 posted on 04/05/2017 6:47:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tax-chick

It’s on my list of things I want to do. There is such drama that is about to unfold involving this place.


25 posted on 04/05/2017 7:59:31 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: colorado tanker

Very interesting.

One thing the Leftist revisionists work very hard at hiding is the fact that as a result of the free market economy running with NO federal government interference in the 1800’s, the average American lived better than the average citizen in any other country and as well or better than many rich people in other countries.

In the recorded history of man, America in the 1800’s is one the very few examples of a truly free society.


26 posted on 04/05/2017 10:08:07 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

I don’t see travel in my future. We just have tv.


27 posted on 04/05/2017 10:20:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick
He and General Sherman deeply disliked one another.

Meagher was with the 69th New York Militia at First Bull Run and Colonel Sherman was his brigade commander. He viewed Sherman as something of a martinet, probably because Sherman was trying to instill army discipline in the volunteer regiments under his command in the short time available. Sherman, for his part, spoke highly of the 69th New York. The dislike may not have been mutual if Sherman didn't know Meagher, then a junior officer. Or it could have been; Sherman had a short temper.

28 posted on 04/05/2017 10:33:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Tax-chick

Did you see the sikh and the Treasury in the movie “Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade?” Some neat shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGN0LuEXBYY


29 posted on 04/05/2017 10:49:48 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: DoodleDawg

According to the book, Meagher’s opinion of Sherman became public knowledge, and Sherman took Meagher in dislike. “Deeply” was probably too strong. “Instantly” would have been better word; in the author’s opinion, it was also “permanently.”


30 posted on 04/05/2017 11:25:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

For fellow refugees from the WWII by day threads, I ran across a website with some interesting maps, a few of which I hadn’t seen. It’s the 40,000 feet view of the War. http://www.vox.com/2014/11/13/7148855/40-maps-that-explain-world-war-ii


31 posted on 04/06/2017 3:47:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; henkster; CougarGA7

Speaking of WWII by day threads, on Twitter I started following @WWII75YearsOn, who posts daily updates. I reply every day with the same old threads and reach a new and appreciative audience. One regular reader is Manuel L. Quezon III, grandson of the wartime President of the Republic of the Philippines. If you tweet and want to do it all over again you can follow @WWII75YearsOn or me (@dwdeardorff).


32 posted on 04/06/2017 4:02:12 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Continued from March 23 (reply #62).

April 7. Journal sorely neglected of late, but I have been working night after night well into the small hours. The Senate passed Brooks’s second substitute (not the Hawks plan) 19 to 12, at two this morning. Very bad. I hoped we should escape a vote against us by indefinite postponement, but Thurlow Weed is omnipotent. I can’t see how we can prevent his forcing the bill straight through the legislature. However, Mr. Ruggles in his letter of yesterday predicted it could not get through the legislature.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

33 posted on 04/07/2017 4:56:32 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I have been working night after night well into the small hours.

Doing what, I wonder. Perhaps writing letters to lobbyists and legislators and editors, writing pamphlets, that kind of thing. So much more labor-intensive than Tweeting.

34 posted on 04/07/2017 9:44:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick

Samuel Ruggles was a prominent New Yorker and Strong’s father-in-law. Weed was known as “Boss” Weed and was extremely influential in Albany. The fissures are interesting because they were all nominally on the same side - former Whigs who became Republicans.


35 posted on 04/07/2017 10:29:16 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
they were all nominally on the same side

Thanks, I hadn't caught that.

36 posted on 04/07/2017 10:30:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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The fissures are interesting because they were all nominally on the same side - former Whigs who became Republicans.

I'm not sure what Weed's object was in the matter being considered in Albany, or how it related to Republican policy, but Strong and Ruggles, as Trinity Church Episcopalians, no doubt saw it transcending party politics.

37 posted on 04/07/2017 10:52:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick

I think you’re on to something, Homer. From what I recall, Weed was a very powerful machine politician. As we already know, Strong is a very principled man.


38 posted on 04/07/2017 11:52:30 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; Homer_J_Simpson

Maybe it was personal.


39 posted on 04/07/2017 12:15:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: colorado tanker; Tax-chick
I've been trying to figure out what significance the Trinity Church business held for Thurlow Weed. I might have to get a biography of Weed to do that. Not likely to happen. I'm not even sure of why the proposed legislation was such a "heavy blow" to the church. (From the editors' note for the March 8 entry of G.T.S. diary, reupped below.) I guess an unfavorable outcome could have resulted in other churches in the diocese reaping the income from Trinity's assets. But I don't see that mentioned as being the case. It sounds like an in-house beef of the Episcopal Diocese of New York, so I don't know why the state legislature is even involved. It seems like a civil suit would be more in order. As for Weed and the bill, who knows? At this point he is already more concerned with getting William H. Seward nominated by the Republicans in 1860.

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40 posted on 04/08/2017 11:59:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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