But he was, so it doesn't matter does it? That's the bottom line.
Wrong yet again (still). Stop it with the extra made-up conditions for being a natural born citizen. Citizen at birth, that's all it means.
While there are numerous aspects to Obama's birth and status that make him undesirable, if he was actually born in HI he is a natural-born citizen per the Founders' chosen definition. If he was born in Kenya, he is not. That's the bottom line. Your made up garbage makes you, and by extension, the rest of us, look like kooks.
Thanks Republicans and most conservative commentators who wouldn’t touch this issue, yet the entire media is talking about Trump and Russia non-stop. Trump was great on this in 2011.
” Stop it with the extra made-up conditions for being a natural born citizen. Citizen at birth, that’s all it means.”
You are WRONG! I realize this a complicated issue for many. Having studied this thoroughly for years, I can tell you that the framers and founders knew exactly what they were doing and exactly what a “natural born citizen was and meant. There is just NO QUESTION about this.
The fact that you can’t accept it doesn’t change the truth.
Born in the country to TWO citizen parents. PERIOD!
Obama qualifies on NEITHER!
So perhaps you could explain the inclusion of this "extra" text in the Constitution?
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of PresidentML/NJ
This is incorrect.
While there are numerous aspects to Obama's birth and status that make him undesirable, if he was actually born in HI he is a natural-born citizen per the Founders' chosen definition.
This is incorrect. Citizenship derived form the 14th amendment is not "natural" citizenship. Natural citizens had no need of the 14th amendment to be citizens.
You are the one who’s wrong.
The original kid died and the CIA substituted the Djakarta street kid.
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The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.The founders heavily relied on Vattel, and his The Law of Nations when forming the Country. It's even ironic, that a few years back, when there was much ballyhoo over the library book that was never returned by George Washington, was a copy of The Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.The founders heavily relied on Vattel, and his The Law of Nations when forming the Country. It's even ironic, that a few years back, when there was much ballyhoo over the library book that was never returned by George Washington, was a copy of The Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.