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Democrats Have Lost On Climate Change, And It’s Their Own Fault
The Federalist ^ | 2 Jun, 2017 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/03/2017 8:26:58 PM PDT by MtnClimber

This is what happens when science is hijacked in pursuit of ideologically driven economic policies.

If the Paris Agreement is substantively a joke, then the widespread rage about President’s Trump’s withdrawal is, as many people have already noted, surely a case of mass virtue signaling. But the episode does reflect a larger problem for the Left.

Whenever the United States fails to adopt climate-change policy favored by the Left, advocates like to point to polls that allegedly illustrate how a vast majority of Americans support “fighting climate change” or “reducing carbon emissions” or “believe in global warming.” These vague, feel-good moral declarations are equivalent to voters saying they are in favor “reducing poverty” or “helping children.” The more useful question is what are you willing to do? Give up one of your cars? Pay more for energy, food, housing, and everything else? Do you want to empower government to run the economy to help fix the problem?

When it comes to perfunctorily treating global warming as an evil, Democrats have won. The importance of “greening” everything has saturated society. Everyone gets it. When it comes to policy that supposedly mitigates climate change, though, they lose. Mostly, because they’ve hijacked “science” in pursuit of ideologically driven economic policies.

The cycle goes something like this: Americans are marginally (or what some of us believe, appropriately) concerned about carbon emissions. For Malthusian progressives, and increasingly the rest of the Democratic Party, this won’t do. So they ratchet up the apocalyptic rhetoric in an effort to scare those people into embracing a slate of economic policies.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: fakescience; glodalwarming

1 posted on 06/03/2017 8:26:59 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

A conspiracy by communists to take control of the means of production.


2 posted on 06/03/2017 8:28:17 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

Name something the Democrats support — it leads to communism.
Name something the Democrats hate — it stands in the way of communism.


3 posted on 06/03/2017 8:33:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: MtnClimber

Correct.


4 posted on 06/03/2017 8:38:00 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: MtnClimber

They pull their polls from the same place they got their
“90% of Americans want Universal Background Checks” and “97% of all scientists...blah, blah, blah”


5 posted on 06/03/2017 8:40:20 PM PDT by digger48
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To: ClearCase_guy

Correct again. The dimocrats are in revolt. Sedition and subversion are their present methods along with the treasonous deep state internal attacks.


6 posted on 06/03/2017 8:41:28 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: MtnClimber

“Democrats Have Lost On Climate Change”

Time will tell. I thought the thing was dead after Climategate, 8 years ago, but it turned out to be just a bump in the road.


7 posted on 06/03/2017 8:45:52 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: MtnClimber

“Culture is upstream of politics.” ~Andrew Breitbart


8 posted on 06/03/2017 8:48:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: MtnClimber
"Democrats Have Lost On Climate Change"

For now maybe. But remember the 'Rats never ever give up. It's like it's in their programming or mutated DNA. They will continue to come back again and again with their uncontrollable hysterics and hate for anyone who disagrees with them. True science and reason be damned.

9 posted on 06/03/2017 9:08:24 PM PDT by nralife (Tell Sen. John Cornyn we DO in fact want a real wall! 202-224-2934)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Name something the Democrats support — it leads to communism.
Name something the Democrats hate — it stands in the way of communism.

Wow - short & sweet - I think you nailed it!


10 posted on 06/03/2017 9:10:43 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: MtnClimber

look in a country that you have a large number of people that believe in 57 genders and counting and think its “Science” (its really the 2+2=5 test) then you have no hope of defeating global warming propaganda... the lefts propaganda primary point is to makes “useful idiots” that will believe what they are told by their masters


11 posted on 06/03/2017 9:22:49 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: tophat9000
its really the 2+2=5 test

Worse, it's the 1+1=57 test.

12 posted on 06/03/2017 11:52:34 PM PDT by AZLiberty (A is now A once again.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s a great quote that I’ll remember


13 posted on 06/04/2017 2:18:31 AM PDT by albie
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To: MtnClimber

When the threat is ****GLOBAL WARMING****, the solution is more socialism worldwide, less technology in the West, and less individual freedom in the West.

When the threat is ****GLOBAL COOLING****, the solution is more socialism worldwide, less technology in the West, and less individual freedom in the West.

NYTimes peddles both sets of threats, but with the same answer to either “danger”. Truth and consistency are not relevant to the agenda of #FakeNews.

Note that everything following is from the indicated NYTimes link, except for each article’s top line label with the publication year.

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1934 - COLD - 1934 - COLD - 1934 - COLD - 1934 - COLD
Nation Is Held on Verge of Climate Shift; Experts See Old-Fashioned Winters Back
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?srchst=p&query=%22Nation+Is+Held+on+Verge+of+Climate+Shift%22&bylquery=&hdlquery =
December 16, 1934, Sunday

America is believed by Weather Bureau scientists to be on the verge of a change of climate, with a return to increasing rains and deeper snows and the colder Winters . . .

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1956 . . . warm . . . 1956 . . . warm . . . 1956 . . . warm . . . 1956 . . . warm
SCIENCE IN REVIEW; Warmer Climate on the Earth May Be Due To More Carbon Dioxide in the Air
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Warmer+Climate+on+the+Earth+May+Be+Due+To+More+Carbon+Dioxide+in+the+Air%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=30&submit.y=5
October 28, 1956, Sunday
By WALDEMAR KAEMPFFERT

The general warming of the climate that has occurred in the last sixty years has been variously explained. Among the explanations are . . .

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1958 - COLD - 1958 - COLD - 1958 - COLD - 1958 - COLD
Frozen Key To Our Climate; The world’s ice masses may be ushering in a fifth Ice Age. Frozen Key To Our Climate http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22The+world%27s+ice+masses+may+be+ushering+in+a+fifth+Ice+Age%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=27&submit.y=8

December 7, 1958, Sunday
By LEONARD ENGEL

SEVERAL thousand scientists of many nations have recently been climbing mountains, digging tunnels in glaciers, journeying to the Antarctic, camping on floating Arctic ice. Their object has been to solve a fascinating riddle: what is happening to the world’s ice . . .

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1959 . . . warm . . . 1959 . . . warm . . . 1959 . . . warm . . . 1959 . . . warm
A WARMER EARTH EVIDENT AT POLES; Arctic Findings in Particular Support Theory of Rising Global Temperatures http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Arctic+Findings+in+Particular+Support+Theory+of+Rising+Global+Temperatures%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=17&submit.y=5
February 15, 1959, Sunday

WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 — The theory that the world is growing slightly warmer is receiving added confirmation . . .

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1961 - COLD - 1961 - COLD - 1961 - COLD - 1961 - COLD
SCIENTISTS AGREE WORLD IS COLDER; But Climate Experts Meeting Here Fail to Agree on Reasons for Change http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22But+Climate+Experts+Meeting+Here+Fail+to+Agree+on+Reasons+for+Change%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=23&submit.y=5
January 30, 1961, Monday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

After a week of discussions on the causes of climate change, an assembly of specialists from several continents seems to have reached unanimous agreement on only one point: it is getting colder . . .

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1969 . . . warm . . . 1969 . . . warm . . . 1969 . . . warm . . . 1969 . . . warm
Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea; Catastrophic Shifts in Climate Feared if Change Occurs Other Specialists See No Thinning of Polar Ice Cap
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Expert+Says+Arctic+Ocean+Will+Soon+Be+an+Open+Sea%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=16&submit.y=3
February 20, 1969, Thursday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

Col. Bernt Balchen, polar explorer and flier, is circulating a paper among polar specialists proposing that the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two . . .

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1970 - COLD - 1970 - COLD - 1970 - COLD - 1970 - COLD
U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic; U.S. and Soviet Press Arctic Studies
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22U.S.+and+Soviet+Press+Studies+of+a+Colder+Arctic%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=17&submit.y=10
July 18, 1970, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

The United States and the Soviet Union are mounting large-scale investigations to determine why the Arctic climate is becoming more frigid, why parts of the Arctic sea ice have recently become ominously thicker and whether the extent of that ice cover contributes to the onset of ice ages . . .

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1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD
Climate Experts Assay Ice Age Clues
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Climate+Experts+Assay+Ice+Age+Clues+%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=14&submit.y=7
January 27, 1972, Thursday
Special to The New York Times

After invading Nebraska and Colorado, the armadillos, faced with increasingly frigid weather, are in retreat from those states toward their ancestral home south of the Mexican border. The winter snow accumulation on Baffin Island has increased . . .

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1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD - 1972 - COLD
Scientist Fears Equable Climate Around World Could Be Ending
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Scientist+Fears+Equable+Climate+Around+World+Could+Be+Ending+%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=22&submit.y=9
October 31, 1972, Tuesday
By BOYCE RENSBERGER

The current 12,000-year-old era of comfortable climates around the world may be coming to an end . . .

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1975 - COLD - 1975 - COLD - 1975 - COLD - 1975 - COLD
Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead; Scientists Ponder Why World’s Climate Is Changing; a Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Scientists+Ask+Why+World+Climate+Is+Changing%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=17&submit.y=8
May 21, 1975, Wednesday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

The world’s climate is changing. Of that scientists are firmly convinced. But in what direction and why are subjects of deepening debate . . .

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1975 . . . warm . . . 1975 . . . warm . . . 1975 . . . warm . . . 1975 . . . warm . . .
WARMING TREND SEEN IN CLIMATE; Two Articles Counter View That Cold Period Is Due
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22WARMING+TREND+SEEN+IN+CLIMATE%3B+Two+Articles+Counter+View+That+Cold+Period+Is+Due%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=25&submit.y=6
August 14, 1975, Thursday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

Articles in two scientific journals have questioned widely publicized predictions that, in coming decades, the world climate will deteriorate severely affecting food production and, perhaps, initiating a new ice age . . .

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1978 /// no change /// 1978 /// no change /// 1978 /// no change /// 1978
Climate Specialists, in Poll, Foresee No Catastrophic Weather Changes in Rest of Century; Warning About Carbon Dioxide
http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Climate+Specialists%2C+in+Poll%2C+Foresee+No+Catastrophic+Weather+Changes+in+Rest+of+Century%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=18&submit.y=9
February 18, 1978, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN

WASHINGTON, Feb. 17—A poll of climate specialists in seven countries has found a consensus that there will be no catastrophic changes in the climate by the end of the century. But the specialists were almost equally divided on whether there would be a warming, a cooling or no change at all . . .

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2007 . . . warm . . . 2007 . . . warm . . . 2007 . . . warm . . . 2007 . . . warm
Science Panel Calls Global Warming ‘Unequivocal’
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/science/earth/03climate.html
Published: February 3, 2007
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL and ANDREW C. REVKIN

In a grim and powerful assessment of the future of the planet, the leading international network of climate scientists has concluded for the first time that global warming is “unequivocal” and that human activity is the main driver, “very likely” causing most of the rise in temperatures since 1950 . . .

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2009 ??? Fraud ??? 2009 ??? Fraud ??? 2009 ??? Fraud ??? 2009 ??? Fraud
Hacked Email is New Fodder for Climate Dispute
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html
Published: November 20, 2009

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Hundreds of private e-mail messages and documents hacked from a computer server at a British university are causing a stir among global warming skeptics, who say they show that climate scientists conspired to overstate the case for a human influence on climate change . . .


14 posted on 06/04/2017 2:42:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: MtnClimber

The environmentalist whackos have been predicting one eco catastrophe after another for 50 years. Insecticides, GMO foods, Ozone holes, rainforest depletion, landfill space, PCBs, toxic chemicals, plastic bags, dead oceans, etc. NONE of their predictions have come true, but they are surprised when they are not taken seriously on GW.


15 posted on 06/04/2017 4:35:29 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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