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From Uber drivers to Zuckerberg’s security officers, Palo Alto has an idling problem
The Mercury News ^ | June 15, 2017 | Jacqueline Lee

Posted on 06/15/2017 8:12:12 AM PDT by lacrew

Shelly Gordon, who serves on the executive committee of the Loma Prieta chapter of the Sierra Club, says Palo Alto city leaders can help solve the problem by adopting a vehicle anti-idling ordinance.

The ordinance could ban vehicles from idling for longer than one minute, unless they’re waiting for traffic lights to turn green.

Council members say an anti-idling ordinance would help the city make headway on its Sustainability/Climate Action Plan goal of reducing carbon emissions by 80 percent from 1990 levels by the year 2030. Palo Alto also is trying to reduce the number of people driving alone in the city and considering other ways to reduce car travel, such as eliminating free public parking.

Earlier this year, students Andy Zeng, Rachel Loewy and Tanli Su, members of the Sierra Club Youth Climate Action Leadership Team, monitored and educated parents and students at Hoover Elementary School about idling.

Over a two-week period, the students monitored parents picking up students and counted 162 of them idling for more than 60 seconds and about 40 for more than 10 minutes.

To address this issue, the students handed out pledge cards for parents to sign.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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This entire article oozes with stupidity...yet the more I read, the more certain I have become that in the very near future, some statist lunatic will try to impose an 'idling ban' on me.
1 posted on 06/15/2017 8:12:12 AM PDT by lacrew
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Why are Zuck’s security not operating ELECTRIC vehicles?

Put the Zuck on battery power.


2 posted on 06/15/2017 8:13:57 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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They could really fix all of this if they just passed a law saying you can’t leave your home without a really good reason permitted by the government.

Think of all the gas we would save.


3 posted on 06/15/2017 8:17:04 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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students handed out pledge cards for parents to sign

They'd not like it when I handed it back, along with a suggestion as to where to put it.

Elementary school kids lecturing grownups. And who do you suppose put them up to it?

4 posted on 06/15/2017 8:20:59 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ptsal

Uh, I got a better idea. PULL THE PLUG on suckerburg.


5 posted on 06/15/2017 8:28:51 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: lacrew

Today’s engines are no doubt better in this regard but used to be it took more gas to start the engine than it did to idle for a few minutes.


6 posted on 06/15/2017 8:33:42 AM PDT by moehoward
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To address this issue, the students handed out pledge cards for parents to sign................brownshirt yutes. What will be next? Turning in the parents for re-education camps?
7 posted on 06/15/2017 8:34:59 AM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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Electric vehicles are just for show, and the peasants.


8 posted on 06/15/2017 8:35:24 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Mr. Douglas

I’m sure the left has already planned a way to limit driving miles to whatever is necessary to serve the state.


9 posted on 06/15/2017 8:36:42 AM PDT by lacrew
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"Elementary school kids lecturing grownups. And who do you suppose put them up to it?"

Next the teachers will get the kids to 'report' their parents for environmental crimes.

10 posted on 06/15/2017 8:37:52 AM PDT by lacrew
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Mileage tax. Been proposed in multiple states over the past few years, don’t doubt it will becone law somewhere soon enough.


11 posted on 06/15/2017 8:39:54 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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The article states the gas needed at startup equals 30 seconds of idling. I have no idea if that's true.

But to worry about those types of semantics misses a larger point. Its nobody's business if I idle my car. Its in the 90's with 95% humidity where I'm at right now - so of course I'm going to idle my car...for my personal comfort. Once that is deemed too frivolous in the fight to save Gaia, its not a big leap before the gubmint is controlling my house thermostat and limiting the number of showers I can take.

12 posted on 06/15/2017 8:42:10 AM PDT by lacrew
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Anyone ever been at a traffic light with dozens of cars stopped from each direction? EVERYONE has! Why is that? Usually it’s because someone had a turn arrow and one or two cars go through and are long gone while we all burn “precious” fossil fuels.

Why doesn’t goverment make use of the technology available to keep us moving along? They only use technology to oppress and constrict us. Plenty of red light cameras around and there is lots of money for the pols to manage in it.

The other day I came upon 2 heavily traveled, different lights during rush hour, in the rain. I didn’t notice the lights were out at first. Usually they are backed up with a hundred cars. There were 3 or 4 at this time because drivers were carefully making their way through the intersection on their own! Those lights shouldn’t even be there.


13 posted on 06/15/2017 8:44:26 AM PDT by subterfuge (Build the damn wall...)
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To: lacrew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVPyHrPZbVM

The Green Police from the 2010 Superbowl...


14 posted on 06/15/2017 9:00:09 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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They could really fix all of this if they just passed a law saying you can’t leave your home without a really good reason permitted by the government.

This quote will find its way to DU as an example of FR conservative thinking in 3...2...1...

15 posted on 06/15/2017 9:04:41 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Hmm, sitting in a car in a hot climate without idling to run the A/C is a recipe for disaster.


16 posted on 06/15/2017 9:21:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: lacrew
IIRC Palo Alto rarely experiences extremes of temperature as do most parts of the country.But in most parts of the country such extremes routinely occur in January and/or July.
17 posted on 06/15/2017 9:22:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Comey = The Swamp Fighting Back)
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They won’t even grasp the obvious sarcasm. :)


18 posted on 06/15/2017 9:26:44 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: lacrew

Agreed 100%. They are already doing that in some places. A freeper said he got a ticket for idling his car in his driveway...that infuriated me.

I detest and despise these nanny-staters who want to tell you what to eat or drink, what kind of light bulb you can have in your house, what your water temp has to be, etc.


19 posted on 06/15/2017 9:27:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals are in a state of constant cognitive dissonance, which explains their mental instability.)
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The idling in driveway ticket is for a different nanny reason...they’re afraid somebody is going to hop in your car and steal it. Makes me wonder when women will be ticketed for wearing expensive jewelry, or carrying purses with weak straps.


20 posted on 06/15/2017 9:33:44 AM PDT by lacrew
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