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'We need to instill fear of overdosing': Ohio city councilman proposes BANNING opioid addicts...
Daily Mail UK ^ | June 30, 2017 | Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com

Posted on 06/30/2017 10:22:35 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: chris37

That’s very true. He knew the answers regarding his physical and emotional pain, and he never felt comfortable sharing them.

I feel a sadness about that, but truthfully he was very hostile to me for years. Nasty, mean, passive aggressive. He would steal from me, break into my computer and check email and websites. Truly, he had lowlife qualities in regards to me. He was also very insensitive to our mother and put her through a lot over the years, culminating in this dreadful experience.

What was unusual is that he was very loved by his friends and coworkers. Many came to the wake. He was evidently very kind, generous, and helpful to anyone in his life.

That’s a stark disconnect with how he was with me and to a lesser extent our mother.

This had a downside. He was financially a mess. I’m going through his stuff now and he had a lot in collections. He owed over $125k on a foreclosure a decade ago. We didn’t even know he bought a house or why he would.

He’s insolvent. He has $600 in a bank account and owes them $3,000. Maybe he has some vested pension I’m going to find out next week. I don’t plan on being the administrator of his assets, as he had no will. There’s no money - the bank will take the few hundred dollars and there’s nothing left.


41 posted on 06/30/2017 5:50:15 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: grania

Thank you very much for the thoughts and prayers during this difficult time. Please give special attention to our mother, who is devastated.


42 posted on 06/30/2017 5:50:59 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: LadyShires

Thank you very much.


43 posted on 06/30/2017 5:51:36 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: refreshed

Troy, Ohio
Lost my 41 yo niece to OD. Sympathy calls to her sister from Her ‘friends’ had a alternative motive. They wanted to know who gave her the drugs cause they wanted some too. For God’s sake, she died from them! It’s inhuman to want that risk for yourself!!!


44 posted on 06/30/2017 6:00:41 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: griswold3

I’m very sorry for your loss. This is a bigger problem and much closer to home than most realize.


45 posted on 06/30/2017 7:42:05 PM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: Ted Grant

My condolences and prayers to you and your family on your loss. May your brother rest in peace.


46 posted on 06/30/2017 10:04:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Morgana

Rehab does NOTHING unless or until the person wants to change.


47 posted on 07/01/2017 6:18:14 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Morgana

What a nutcase. This fool is dangerous.


48 posted on 07/01/2017 6:21:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bob434

Some people let power go to their heads. He’s clearly one of those people.


49 posted on 07/01/2017 6:25:50 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Morgana

how about using kratom for those that really, really want to help. Even at the expense of thegovernment which goes against my libertarian leanings.

I know many and of many more that it has made possible to get off prescription and illegal drugs. It will only work if the person wants to stop though.

The government would like everyone to think it is some horrible addicting drug but research it for yourself before you decide.

I use it, and not everday, I use it when OTC pain meds don’t work. Other FR members use it.

It is cheap and EFFECTIVE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO QUIT. Te thing that makes many keep using is the fear of WD and if they suffer from pain, they fear the pain returning.

Big Pharma wants kratom. It’s still legal in most states.

Say they are trading one addiction for another (not necessarly true) but kratom. in and of itself (not mixed with other drugs) has not killed anyone. If you take to much you will puke it back up.


50 posted on 07/01/2017 6:33:05 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Ted Grant

My sister was an alcoholic who was involved in multiple car accidents and became physically combative with the police and her husband numerous times. At one point, one of her daughters called 911 because she was so drunk. She spent some time in a hospital.

A year and a half later her husband told her that he was taking her to rehab in the morning. She left the house that night, walked to a railroad overpass and stepped off.

Nothing can stop an addict if they don’t want to quit.


51 posted on 07/01/2017 6:33:15 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ted Grant

I hear you. I’m so sorry.


52 posted on 07/01/2017 6:34:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: muggs

and kratom is cheap, maybe $70 to $100 for a kilo. Kilo could lasst a month.


53 posted on 07/01/2017 6:37:42 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Bob434

we can’t turn our backs on people just because they are too stupid to want to live....Why not? Seriously.


54 posted on 07/01/2017 7:00:03 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Ted Grant

I just prayed for you and your mom. My condolences for your loss. So sad.


55 posted on 07/02/2017 2:58:36 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: cherry

You are right. Of course the unpoliced borders bringing in illegal drugs also helps.

Almost like people are getting a big kickback for keeping the borders open.


56 posted on 07/02/2017 3:04:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thank you very much for the thoughts and prayers.


57 posted on 07/03/2017 8:54:00 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Morgana

How about the death penalty for dealers. Workfarms for users.


58 posted on 07/03/2017 8:56:39 AM PDT by King Moonracer (I wish I had the Tantulus field, but I'd probably wear it out.)
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To: trisham

I’m very sorry to hear about your sister. You’re right: an addict really has to come to the conclusion to seek help for himself or herself. An addict can’t be policed 24/7.

My brother did detox and rehab a couple of years ago, but it didn’t take. We encouraged him to go back. He couldn’t even admit there was a problem and was hostile when it was brought up.

There was a lot going on under the hood. Undiagnosed mental illness. An inability to cope. Ridiculously secretive and defensive. As I understand it, these are not uncommon qualities of an addict.

Praying for you and your family.


59 posted on 07/03/2017 8:57:50 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: trisham

Thank you!


60 posted on 07/03/2017 8:59:00 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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