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Venting: Alabama
Me | 12/12/2017 | Me

Posted on 12/12/2017 8:53:19 PM PST by MountainWalker

Let me say I am extremely disappointed in the loss tonight. I would have stuck with Strange in the primary, but I would have voted for Moore if I lived in Alabama. This is a double loss since Sessions has been such a lousy AG and set the table for this Mueller witch hunt but would have been a reliable Senate vote.

I wish people would understand that the difference between glory and destruction with high risk candidates is pretty slim even in Alabama. The media is the enemy - the communication wing of the DNC and will sabotage R candidates or run interference for D's as the situation requires. How many people know Senator Menendez is a pedophile? How bad does a Senator Strange sound tonight?

Let's not kid ourselves: Moore lost this seat. If any Democrat gave as tepid a response to the pedo charges leveled at him, we'd be all over him. He was stupid, selfish and reckless to have run with this is his past, and the media deliberately waited to expose him until he was locked onto the ballot. They tried to do the same to Trump with the Access Hollywood tape, waiting until well after Trump clinched the nomination but it backfired ultimately because of Trump's dynamism and the weakness of the charges once you get past the crassness of the remark. Still, Trump only won by about 80k votes across some key states.

This country is teetering on the abyss if it's not already fallen into it and we just haven't realized it yet. We need bulletproof candidates because the media is gunning for our guys while they bury stories for any Democrats whose seats might get filled by Republicans, either at the ballot box or appointed by Republican governor. This is the battlefield we have to operate in, and there's nothing we can do about that but not make unforced errors with lousy candidate quality control.


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KEYWORDS: alabama; douchejones; dougjones; maga; roymoore; sessions; triplechess; winning
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To: Drew68

This doesn’t tell us there wasn’t vote fraud.

From the democrats’ perspective, fraud was necessary if Jones was going to lose.

The only way to confirm or refute this is to do an investigation. Not by showing numbers that could include lots of faked votes.


21 posted on 12/12/2017 9:04:43 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: MountainWalker
We need bulletproof candidates because the media is gunning for our guys while they bury stories for any Democrats whose seats might get filled by Republicans

A conservative candidate can never be good enough or clean enough to pass the liberal test and be safe --- if there is nothing there, they will simply make something up and then pay the witnesses to help them remember. Once accused, it is just a matter of repeating the accusation over and over again until all the holier-than-thou in our ranks are shamed into falling in line with the liberals because they can't in good conscience vote for someone accused of such a thing. Presto --- they win!!!

22 posted on 12/12/2017 9:05:03 PM PST by LTC.Ret
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To: Mr. K

We gave it away. Stupid. Don’t blame McConnell.


23 posted on 12/12/2017 9:05:50 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Who’s “we”?


24 posted on 12/12/2017 9:06:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MountainWalker

Yeah, the initial response was beyond horrible, and things didn’t get much better from there.


25 posted on 12/12/2017 9:07:04 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: MountainWalker

“We need bulletproof candidates because the media is gunning for our guys?”

They don’t run bulletproof candidates. Why do we have to?

Because we don’t play as hard as they do.

That’s why Trump won and that’s why we have to give him some space when he’s a little bombastic and over the top.

That’s what you do when you win against the Rats.

Did you ever hear any mention of say, drug use by Doug Jones?

And yet he was a 70’s liberal college kid. What do you think he might have done...40 years ago?

But no one said anything. Nothing. He’s snow white.

Know why? Because no one said anything. Truth is, the guy’s covered in mud - he’s a scam artist shyster.

But no one went for him. Cuz apparently we don’t play for keeps. But they do.


26 posted on 12/12/2017 9:08:00 PM PST by Regulator
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To: MountainWalker

Everyone wants to blame Moore, but what happened to Moore can be done to anybody. People forget so quickly how Mitt Romney, a “bulletproof” pure goody goody two shoes, was turned into anti-woman animal abuser.
My hope for this election was that cycle would be broken, but the “principals” squad fell for it again. Democrats strategy is to ignore issues and focus on attacking our candidates, and our strategy is to help them do it.


27 posted on 12/12/2017 9:08:37 PM PST by BRK
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To: nutmeg

I can’t stand grandma Sessions


28 posted on 12/12/2017 9:08:54 PM PST by Democrat_media (Mueller doing coup vs Trump. Obama was adding 97,000 pages of government regulations /year)
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To: SecAmndmt

It is also low information voters who nominate crappy candidates in the primaries who can’t win.


29 posted on 12/12/2017 9:09:43 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: MountainWalker

So basically we have to vote in colluding RINOs so that the Leftist media machine doesn’t crush the only viable opposition party.


30 posted on 12/12/2017 9:09:59 PM PST by Crucial
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To: LTC.Ret

That’s all well and good, but if the candidate can’t give an unequivocal denial of any bombshell allegations leveled against him, he shouldn’t expect others to ride to his defense.


31 posted on 12/12/2017 9:10:23 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: reasonisfaith
This doesn’t tell us there wasn’t vote fraud.

I'm tired of the whole "vote fraud" cry. It negates responsibility for running a lousy candidate by saying, "Our guy was the true choice of the people and would've won except for fraud!"

Roy Moore was a flawed candidate and over 650,000 Alabamans who voted for President Trump stayed home today.

This is what needs to be looked at.

32 posted on 12/12/2017 9:10:35 PM PST by Drew68
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To: MountainWalker

Sorry but your apologia for the Washington machine does not fly.


33 posted on 12/12/2017 9:12:02 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Democrat_media

You left out Republicans.

This is war.

No more Republicans.


34 posted on 12/12/2017 9:13:13 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Crucial

No, we just have to nominate conservatives who aren’t pedophiles or otherwise defective candidates. There are a handful in the Senate. We just need more of them.


35 posted on 12/12/2017 9:13:15 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: theoilpainter

“I would have done ANYTHING to save this seat - even voting for Moore, who is, let’s face it, a buffoon.”

Yes.

But McConnell and the Republicans did the opposite.

It’s war.


36 posted on 12/12/2017 9:14:27 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: tennmountainman; MountainWalker

I think this was a good post. It takes up the same amount of bandwidth no matter where it’s posted, right?

To the subject of the original post, I tended not to believe the accusation, because I knew that Ed Gentle’s law firm brought Leigh Corfman in.

He’s the treasurer of the Alabama Democrat Party.

That should have been enough to derail the first smear, but it was never reported. The media never addressed that, because in every way, shape and form, the cover up the DEM crimes.

The local media at al.com has a lot to answer for. But the alleged lesbian editor, KA Turner, was out to get blood from day one.


37 posted on 12/12/2017 9:15:22 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Look at the way the domino falls away)
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To: ifinnegan

It’s like refusing to fight for the US during WWII because you hated FDR.


38 posted on 12/12/2017 9:15:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: DIRTYSECRET

BITE MY ASS YOU NAME CALLING ASS HOLE


39 posted on 12/12/2017 9:15:54 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: MountainWalker

......but if the candidate can’t give an unequivocal denial of any bombshell allegations leveled against him, he shouldn’t expect others to ride to his defense.


When did you stop beating your wife?

That’s pretty much the type of bombshell accusations leveled against Moore.

Decades old hearsay/accusations without any solid proof....like Frankenphotos, for example.

The ‘proof’ they did provide turned out to be flat. out. lies.


40 posted on 12/12/2017 9:16:01 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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