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Beach Boys, Guns N’ Roses Song Royalties Complicates Fight Over Charles Manson’s Remains
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Posted on 01/08/2018 6:54:20 AM PST by BenLurkin

A Los Angeles Superior Court judge on Monday will try to sort out at least two conflicting wills and claims by a purported son, grandson and pen pal who all seek control of an estate that includes commercial rights to his name, image and mementos...

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The hearing seeks to name an attorney to administer Manson’s estate on behalf of purported grandson Jason Freeman, who claims to be the rightful next of kin. Court documents show Freeman is the son of the late Charles Manson Jr. and the grandson of Charles Manson and his first wife, Rosalie Willis.

That lineage is disputed by Matt Lentz, a Los Angeles-area musician who goes by the name Matthew Roberts.....

Lentz plans to file a will Monday that Manson purportedly signed in January 2017 and gave to friend and memorabilia collector Ben Gurecki. It names Gurecki as executor and Lentz as beneficiary.

If valid, it could supersede a 2002 will filed in Kern County by longtime Manson pen pal Michael Channels that disinherits Manson’s natural born children and names him as executor and heir.

Attorney Alan Davis, who represents the Freeman bid, said he expects no final decision Monday in part because Judge Clifford Klein would first have to consolidate competing claims.

Lentz wants a DNA test of Manson’s remains, which are still being held by the Kern County sheriff-coroner, to prove he is kin and Freeman is not.

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Manson also had a reputed son with Mary Brunner, an early member of his cult. Michael Brunner had no connection with Manson growing up and has severed ties and made no apparent claim to the estate.

The will filed by Channels purportedly disinherits both Brunner and Charles Manson Jr., who killed himself in 1993 after siring Jason Freeman.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: beachboys; charlesmanson; gunsnroses; songroyalties

1 posted on 01/08/2018 6:54:21 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Helter skelter.


2 posted on 01/08/2018 6:58:30 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: BenLurkin

Not a lawyer, but I would think that since one may not be allowed to profit from his crime, and CM’s only claim to fame was his crime, then there may be issues with his heirs, whomever they may be, to likewise profit from his crime. I don’t know where they draw that line. The perp? Next of kin? I know people have made profit off of it in the form of books and whatnot.


3 posted on 01/08/2018 7:07:49 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: BenLurkin

“I’ll take ‘last headline I thought I’d never see on FR’ for $2500, Alex.


4 posted on 01/08/2018 7:08:32 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SirLurkedalot

And “What is something I pray I am never involved in?”


5 posted on 01/08/2018 7:11:08 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: bk1000

Except that Manson’s crime was not his only claim to fame.

He was a talented song-writer whose work was covered once by the Beach Boys and at least once by Guns and Roses.


6 posted on 01/08/2018 7:13:38 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Was not aware of that. Perhaps I didn’t read thoroughly.


7 posted on 01/08/2018 7:28:24 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: BenLurkin

...And also covered by Marilyn Manson, and the Brian Jonestown Massacre, and Devendra Banhart, and GG Allin, and Rob Zombie, and Redd Kross, and the Lemonheads, and Crispin Glover, and Evan Dando, and Front Line Assembly, and many, many others far too numerous to mention.


8 posted on 01/08/2018 7:43:41 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: bk1000

I thought Son of Sam laws were overturned by the courts.


9 posted on 01/08/2018 7:45:21 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kriggerel

Oh, and I can’t forget Leonard Cohen’s line in “The Future” about all the lousy little poets tryin’ to sound like Charlie Manson.

Lousy little poet? Guilty as charged, sir.
Now I wonder who I’m supposed to try and sound like? :P


10 posted on 01/08/2018 7:46:10 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: BenLurkin
"He was a talented song-writer whose work was covered once by the Beach Boys and at least once by Guns and Roses."

I'm not sure how talented he was but during the time Dennis Wilson was hanging out with the Family he agreed to have the BB record one of his songs and include it on the B side of one of their singles. I believe the song was released as "Never learn not to Love".

11 posted on 01/08/2018 7:58:51 AM PST by circlecity
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