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Can/WILL... MAGA happen without bloodshed?

Posted on 03/17/2018 5:40:14 PM PDT by RevelationDavid

This is a vanity post… but a very real question.

I have been reading the vicious 'deep state' reaction to the firing of Andrew McCabe. It is the most 'over the top' 'fightin words' I have every seen/heard in my lifetime.

My question is this, Can this level of venom continue without bloodshed? Are we in uncharted territory?


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To: RevelationDavid

Can this level of venom continue without bloodshed? Are we in uncharted territory?

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I suspect there will be bloodshed. If conservatives are smart, it will isolated, targeted, and effective. And a lot of it wont look like bloodshed.

The one thing that they should not do is let them scurry away


81 posted on 03/18/2018 3:09:57 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: yarddog

This is what they are doing and this is where they are going

Conservatives better figure it out and fight back.

Saul Alinsky’s Rules from Rules for Radicals

Saul Alinsky describes 24 rules in Rules for Radicals. Of those 24 rules, 13 are rules of “power tactics”:

1. “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy
thinks you have.”

2. “Never go outside the experience of your people.”

3. “Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the
enemy.”

4. “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.”

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

6. “A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.”

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and
actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing
itself.”

10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of
operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will
break through into its counterside.”

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive
alternative.”

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

The remaining 11 rules Alinsky describes are concerned with “the ethics of means and ends”:

1. “One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue … Accompanying this rule is the parallel one that one’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s distance from the scene of conflict.”

2. “The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.”

3. “In war the end justifies almost any means.”

4. “Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.”

5. “Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.”

6. “The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.”

7. “Generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.”

8. “The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

9. “Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.”

10. “You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.”

11. “Goals must be phrased in general terms like ‘Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,’ ‘Of the Common Welfare,’ ‘Pursuit of Happiness,’ or ‘Bread and Peace.’”


82 posted on 03/18/2018 3:12:15 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: marktwain

It is not their nightmare. It is outside their conception. There base firmly believes that such can never happen here, or they would treasure the Second Amendment.

The leadership mostly believes it would never happen because they hold the reins to media power.

The idea that it could happen is completely denied by them. If they are forced to consider it, their entire conception of realilty is destroyed.

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No, like all leftists they are wanting this and are prepared. And they own the army and the police.


83 posted on 03/18/2018 3:13:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: marktwain

It’s beyond their conception because they cannot control where it takes us, and they’re used to controlling everything. It was sort of like their increasing hysteria as the specter of Trump getting elected became more and more of a reality.


84 posted on 03/18/2018 4:22:42 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: American in Israel

So many guns have been lost to canoes. Just unbelievable... the tragedy of it all.


85 posted on 03/18/2018 5:01:23 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: right way right

Oops...

It was the White Russians fault.


86 posted on 03/18/2018 5:45:37 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: dforest
Sessions wa never docile. He has beein doing, like moving and shaking below the radar. That was the Recusal. He could not have got so much donewith a high public profile. Trump is providing the silks and the doves and the eruptions of fire from his hand. Sessions is the other hand that no one is watching.
87 posted on 03/18/2018 5:52:38 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Chickensoup
And they own the army and the police.

More worrisome - they own the illegals, the gangs, the felons, etc.

Those with nothing to lose but will get promises of loot.

88 posted on 03/18/2018 5:53:37 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: ThanhPhero

I was very slow to criticize Sessions. He may have seemed docile to fool the enemies.

I hope you are right and we may see very soon. A battle of some type is brewing. Could get even uglier.


89 posted on 03/18/2018 6:03:43 AM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: yarddog
I do sometimes wonder what the left’s ultimate goal is.

Their ultimate goal is for them to live in gated mansions far away from us and to fly the skies in their jets .

Their goal for us is to be rounded up and placed in high rise apartments in cities. Get out of rural areas and farm land under agenda 21 sustainable development (there will be no hunting the kings deer) You will be a slave to them and pay taxes for their purposes and there's nothing you can do about it.

After they've taken your guns or imprisoned you because you refuse to give them up you will be taxed, fined and penalties rising daily or hourly. You will not be able to afford a gun.

If you want to teach your children the bible well, I'm sorry that will be a reason to lock you up for being mentally ill and forcing your views on a minor is punishable by fines and or imprisonment. All churches have become mouth pieces for the state and Christians are forced underground.

Your children are under state supervision and the age of consent has been dropped. Schools and doctors do not have to inform you of your children's well being or activities. They will march them for their political causes you do not share or care to be affiliated with.

They will coach your children on how to make anonymous tips to the state because cleaning a room is a high crime to a teenager.

You get a call that your daughter is sick at school. After picking her up you discover that she's had an abortion without your knowledge or consent because it's none of your business any longer.

That nice SUV you used to own way back when had to be sold because you cannot afford the taxes and global warming penalties. You will have to get that electric car that everyone has. Only the elites will be able to drive large cars, limos and SUVs.

You loved your family home/farm on 50 acres in a beautiful area but it was taken away from your family due to the taxes and penalties put on you due to global warming, the fairy shrimp or their favorite go to, the wetlands.

Too bad you're hungry. You're not allowed to grow anything without a license and taxes. Try some night fishing to get away from the nosey neighbors that like to snitch because each fish is taxed now? Let's hope you don't get caught because there's fines and possible jail time for your 2nd offense.

What about health care? It'll be getting worse. The drugs to keep you alive will not be affordable to anyone but the elites. Pharmaceutical companies will deliver to certain zip codes but the others are out of luck for their medicine and health needs.

The uniforms that children have been forced to wear in schools so nobody feels left out has somehow made it's way into adult clothing. Everyone wears the same clothes. The dingy colors may change but they're all the same. By this time the children forced to wear uniforms in their youth will have no problem getting in line for more uniforms in their adulthood.

Your child starts daycare in a controlled atmosphere that is a standard all across the nation. He/she will be tested so he/she will be able to pick what profession he/she will take after graduating. This will be decided by first grade and by an unelected "group" of educators.

You will be heavily fined if you are found with a sprayer and weed b gone but look in the sky and see that they are spraying you with (promoted by the Council on Foreign Relations) high levels of Barium (6.8 ppm) and Lead (8.2 ppm) as well as trace amounts of other chemicals including arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium and silver. However, when you consider the fact that the global warming mantra is a thin veil for eugenics and population control you realize that you are being poisoned.


90 posted on 03/18/2018 7:37:25 AM PDT by ssfromla
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To: Chickensoup

“”No, like all leftists they are wanting this and are prepared. And they own the army and the police.””

You really think the LEFT ‘own’ the army and the police??

NO way.


91 posted on 03/18/2018 7:46:40 AM PDT by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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To: Chickensoup

Good sketch of Libtards
Marching orders...

They have No “End Game!”


92 posted on 03/18/2018 8:31:28 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: RevelationDavid

I find it disturbing when a sixth grade teacher, in assigning students to write a persuasive letter to an elected official, has to tell them - 6th grade, mind you - to be respectful if they choose to write to President Trump. The amazing thing is that the hated persona of President Trump was manufactured by the Clinton campaign and promoted by their allies in the media. He is not a racist/xenophobe/misogynist, and has he record to prove it... all of that came after he announced in June 2015.


93 posted on 03/18/2018 10:41:19 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: thoughtomator

Unless a head pops off. Need a hangman with skills.


94 posted on 03/18/2018 10:43:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RevelationDavid; P.O.E.; Big Red Badger

Can/WILL... MAGA happen without bloodshed?


Good sketch of Libtards
Marching orders...

They have No “End Game!”

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Soup said:
“”No, like all leftists they are wanting this and are prepared. And they own the army and the police.””

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You said:
You really think the LEFT ‘own’ the army and the police??
NO way.

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Soup said:

Yes I do, and history bears me out, in leftist takeovers of countries, the police and the military are weapons of the government leftists. If you think Americans are different, IMHO you are very wrong. Military and police obey those who hold the power and pay their paycheck.

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And they own the army and the police.

You said:
More worrisome - they own the illegals, the gangs, the felons, etc.

Those with nothing to lose but will get promises of loot.

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Treasure is gained in two ways only, by capitalism and by war and pillage. Most downfalls of civilizations, countries and kingdoms happened when overrun by marauders and gangsters. We are primely set up for this.


95 posted on 03/18/2018 2:17:56 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Mariner

No.

All one has to do is examine the distribution of weapons in the US. That distribution dictates the outcome.

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The military does have the most weapons and equipment doesn’t it? It will use it against its citizens if the seated power is leftist.

Bet on it.


96 posted on 03/18/2018 2:22:36 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

We have a good time watching video of ignorant jihadis standing around in the desert moments before they are taken out by something they don’t even suspect.

That’ll be us.


97 posted on 03/18/2018 2:24:21 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Chickensoup

“The military does have the most weapons and equipment doesn’t it? “

Not even close.

There are over 300 million private arms in the US, at least 40 million of which are “assault weapons”.

Private business also has more explosives on hand than the combined US military.

Not to mention all the private vehicles, machine shops, lathes, welders...all sort and every kind of machine tool and industrial equipment.


98 posted on 03/18/2018 2:33:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: right way right

One reason I have been rather quiet on this topic recently is that I think war is likely. There is no point in debating the question anymore. If the deep state harms Trump, or a rogue Congress removes him, the fighting begins. It is shameful that it has come to this in the greatest nation God ever blessed. But humankind it prone to corruption and, therefore; every nation needs to be renewed. That probably will take the form of a bloodletting.


99 posted on 03/18/2018 2:56:47 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Diversity for the sake of diversity is just flat out stupidity.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

I notice that nobody really talks about protesting in Washington DC any more like in the days of the TEA party movement.

I think this is because we cannot agree on whether to bring our guns or not, and the real fear is that we may end up having no choice BUT to bring them and, then end up having to use them.

The enemy needs to know that they are on our lawn, and this is not just a political game anymore.

I hate this crazy talk, I hope they are reading it.
I hope it’s just crazy talk.


100 posted on 03/18/2018 3:38:08 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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