Posted on 03/27/2018 7:48:41 AM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
An executive for a French defense giant that operates in China said that safeguarding the company's technology is important, but the effort is no barrier to his firm's success there.
"The new rule of success is to co-develop in China," he said. "It's to generate technology from China together with Chinese partners. In that case, we don't talk about transfer of technology — we talk about building value in China, for China and also for the group."
"When you follow this kind of approach, good partners, localization of technologies, I think you can get all the benefits of being there," he said.
Thales makes everything from warship electronics and unmanned aerial vehicles to satellite communications equipment and radar technology. It has operated in China for more than 30 years.
New concerns about technology transfer:
President Donald Trump signed an executive memorandum last week that would impose retaliatory tariffs on up to $60 billion in Chinese imports.
The new measures are designed to penalize China for doing things like requiring U.S. companies to hand over technological know-how if they want to do business in China.
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Sorry folks it is true.
Programming is a utility service like bookkeeper. I had a room full of Chinese programmers at about $10/hr and with a good amount of management and patient communications I was able to turn out a lot of really good programs.
Knowing what to program, why, establishing QA/QC and managing all the programs to work together — THAT is the skill set you need today.
It appears that one can always depend on the French to bend over and assume the “do it to me now” position, no matter when, where, or what subject.
Oh well, France will soon become Francistan, an occasion which will forever remove them from the list of advanced nations.
That’s right France, don’t invest in the genius of your own countrymen and women. Just rely on the Chinese. Oh, and let in the Muslim horde to violate them while you’re at it.
L'idiot!
America under BO was headed in the same direction as France.
Basically, money is more important than National Security.
I have no doubts about that. What other locations are good? India? Philippines?
French Defense?
Oxymoronic.
Remember, the French developed a transmission for their tanks that is second to none. Three forward gears and twelve in reverse, allowing the vehicle to go twice as fast in reverse, away from the fighting. Don’t forget the white flag that automatically deploys when the tank is put in reverse.
India is a challenge because:
1) They think they speak English so they don’t try to be understandable
2) They have TERRIBLE approach habits — for example if you have 3 requirements that are 90% the same they will write 3 programs (cloning the first) rather than 1 program with 3 options.
Never worked with Filipinos
I am sure that the Chinese are good programmers but software is now the epicenter of strategic advantage and America needs to the knowledge domestically or become a third world backwater. Face it you either make the things you need yourself or you are dependent and must pay others either with money or servitude.
Francais double speak. A loaded crap samwich to foster tech transfer to the chicoms for cheep cheep labor.
Nothing more or less.
>>I am sure that the Chinese are good programmers but software is now the epicenter of strategic advantage and America needs to the knowledge domestically or become a third world backwater.<<
I agree completely, but programmers born and bred here in the USA don’t get that they don’t command salaries like back in my (COBOL) day.
Mind you I am doing programming right this very minute, but it is within the context of also doing analysis, specifications, project planning, integration and user/technical training and documentation.
Many/most kids today cannot do all those things. Most might be able to do one or 2.
“Programming is a utility service like bookkeeper. I had a room full of Chinese programmers at about $10/hr and with a good amount of management and patient communications I was able to turn out a lot of really good programs.”
Admitting you are part of the race to the bottom by doing business with a militarized corrupt polluting slave state may not be as acceptable someday as it is today.
I run my own engineering firm (building structures and services) and disgusted that many leaders in my industry are starting to outsource and import temp slave labor. I’ll starve before I outsource 1 hour to some hellhole that treats people like machines.
It’s absolutely disgusting how manufacturing in this country was gutted and we can no longer buy anything made here. I always made a point to buy American but some things you simply can’t these days.
Even though I had many opportunities to get personally wealthier from it, I refuse to participate in this garbage colonization of the USA. Our scum “leaders” allowed this in order to fill their own pockets at most Americans’ expense.
“Basically, money is more important than National Security.”
Yep. See my post 15
I guarantee Chicoms or Russians don’t use any outsourced labor within sight of their important facilities. While we let them work on our billion dollar weapons and nuke plants...
It isn’t a question of “raving to the bottom.” It is a question of legal survival. I note “legal” because you are really describing using illegals.
I was assigned to do a job. I did it well. I was not going to quit to satisfy a gepolitical desire to virtue signal.
I own my own business now and don’t outsource anything.
My statement is a cautionary tale about skillsets more than a comment on whether outsourcing is good or bad.
Outsourcing is here and it is permanent and no amount of righteous indignation will change that.
“I agree completely, but programmers born and bred here in the USA don’t get that they don’t command salaries like back in my (COBOL) day.
Mind you I am doing programming right this very minute, but it is within the context of also doing analysis, specifications, project planning, integration and user/technical training and documentation.
Many/most kids today cannot do all those things. Most might be able to do one or 2.”
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I guess you don’t consider that “born and bred here in the USA” programmers need time and experience to develop those broader system development skills and abilities JUST AS YOU NEEDED TIME to develop those skills & abilities. You likely had time to develop your skills at a time when your employers weren’t tempted to get rid of you (or never hire you) and use low wage foreign programmers. THAT WAS A BETTER TIME.
Insanity. Just insanity.
“I run my own engineering firm (building structures and services) and disgusted that many leaders in my industry are starting to outsource and import temp slave labor. I’ll starve before I outsource 1 hour to some hellhole that treats people like machines.
It’s absolutely disgusting how manufacturing in this country was gutted and we can no longer buy anything made here. I always made a point to buy American but some things you simply can’t these days.
Even though I had many opportunities to get personally wealthier from it, I refuse to participate in this garbage colonization of the USA. Our scum “leaders” allowed this in order to fill their own pockets at most Americans’ expense.”
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Bravo to you, sir. I wish we had many more like you. Sadly, we don’t.
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