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73 Years Ago Today the Battle for Okinawa Began. It Was Hell on Earth.
http://nationalinterest.org/ ^ | 4/1/18 | Hans A. von Spakovsky

Posted on 04/01/2018 8:30:33 PM PDT by BBell

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To: BBell

There is a Marine in the church I go to that went aboard Okinawa on Easter Sunday. He was wounded 4 or 5 days in.
Great Guy and family.


21 posted on 04/01/2018 8:58:20 PM PDT by squirt (POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
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To: sevlex
Yep....I will read that book by EB Sledge..when I can.

Thanks!!

22 posted on 04/01/2018 8:59:56 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: BBell

I lived there too... three years, beautiful place. You may think you have seen beautiful blue ocean before... but nothing like Okinawa.


23 posted on 04/01/2018 9:00:43 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: BBell
A Number One song in the early weeks of 1946

White Cross on Okinawa--Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys (1945)

24 posted on 04/01/2018 9:05:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: BBell

Okinawa was my father’s introduction to the Japanese.

Said introduction was performed by a kamikaze pilot who flew a few feet over his head while he was manning an antiaircraft gun emplacement at the base of the #3 turret on the Maryland.

The aircraft’s impact and 500 lb bomb it carried killed 12 of his shipmates.

A few feet lower and it would have hit the side of the turret right over his head, and I really would be null and void...


25 posted on 04/01/2018 9:06:24 PM PDT by null and void ("We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?" ~ Joseph Stalin)
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To: Osage Orange
I recommend the book..."A Helmet for my Pillow"....by Robert Leckie...
Excellent writer.........And was THERE!

He was also at Guadalcanal. When I was in high school, I read and enjoyed his book Challenge for the Pacific; Guadalcanal, the turning point of the war (Garden City, NY: Doubleday. 1965).

26 posted on 04/01/2018 9:10:43 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: warsaw44

Interesting - there were still stories about some of the savagery of our own troops to the locals right after the war going around twenty years later when I was there - one old sergeant told of a few GI’s taking “target practice” by trying to shoot the babies off of their backs where the local women carried them - sickening if true, but again that far along, how much was rumor, myth, distortion is hard to know - hopefully all of it....


27 posted on 04/01/2018 9:13:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: BBell

I transcribed a student’s grandfather’s war diary a few years ago. He was on USS Bennington which was at Okinawa. It was April 1, 1944, both Easter and April Fools Day, just like today. The code name was “Love Day”. His diary reads just like the history books. They expected heavy resistance on the beaches and were surprised when there was none. Expected to have things under control quickly but then things got seriously bad. It is all disappearing from living memory now.


28 posted on 04/01/2018 9:14:09 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Osage Orange

May I recommend “Stepping Stones Across The Pacific: A Collection Of Short Stories From The Pacific War” by Tibor Torok?

His son and I used to play together while his dad and my dad worked together at MCAS Beaufort.

I guess it was too painful for him to write about until 1999, my dad, who talked very little about those days, allowed it was pretty accurate...


29 posted on 04/01/2018 9:22:09 PM PDT by null and void ("We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?" ~ Joseph Stalin)
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To: BBell

I lived in Okinawa for some years as a kid. The detritus of war was just under your feet, pretty much everywhere.


30 posted on 04/01/2018 9:23:18 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: BBell

My father was in the first landing wave on Okinawa, in an amphib tank.

He lasted 45 days of combat before being injured seriously in the hand, to require evac. to Honolulu.

They saved all of his fingers. He recovered to first light duty, then awaiting return to full duty, but the war ended.

Had the war not ended, he was among troops expecting to land in Japan.

USMC 2 yrs, active duty, discharged before 20th birthday.


31 posted on 04/01/2018 9:28:12 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: hanamizu

The American Legion Christmas party last December had 5 people who had served during WW2. A few more than that who served in Korea. Us Viet Nam era types had a bunch. Not many for Iraq and Afghanistan. The new vets are busy with families and things are to fresh in there minds I think. I hope they get on board someday. All gave some, Some gave all.


32 posted on 04/01/2018 9:32:32 PM PDT by Equine1952 (You can t swim? OKaaayy! You can call me Ted. Very nice to meet you Mary.)
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To: dfwgator

“I believe the severity of the fighting, convinced the leaders that this was what an invasion of Japan was going to be like, and tipped the scales in favor of using the Atom Bomb.”

Then the US lives lost were not in vain. The airstrip that resulted helped end the war, too.


33 posted on 04/01/2018 9:32:48 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: warsaw44

I was on Okinawa when that story came out and they found the bodies. Pretty neat.


34 posted on 04/01/2018 9:36:42 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: BBell
My father was a navy corpsman during the invasion. He had nightmares about the Japanese until he died.
35 posted on 04/01/2018 9:47:26 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Beowulf9

The little $#!% filled snowflake.

How and the HELL can anyone consider David Hogg a hero of the Florida High School shooting and he wasn’t even there that day and yet three real heroes JROTC Cadets Alaina Petty, 14, Martin Duque, 13, Peter Wang, 15 (who was in uniform at the time) all died while working to save fellow students seem to have no voice?


36 posted on 04/01/2018 10:01:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dfwgator

Yes, the severity of our casualties “convinced the leaders that this was what an invasion of Japan was going to be like..”

Forget the Kai Bird version of events, and that of other leftist fake historians.

People forget that the Japanese Imperial Army in China, according to at least one item I read, numbered up to 2,000,000 men and held a lot of Chinese mainland territory.

We could not have fought them on the ground to defeat without paying a truly horrible price (the same for the British/Indian/Burmese and Kuomintang Chinese Nationalist forces. The Communists under Mao were not going to waste their men fighting the Japanese, just like Ho Chi Minh DID NOT wage total warfare against the Japanese in Indochina (he held his main forces back so that they could take over when the Japanese surrendered and before the French could come back).

We did not have another ready nuke to take out any Mainland China army as an example of what awaited the rest of them (the next A bomb being worked on was at least 3 months away, if not 6 or more and there were no more plans for additional ones).

By nuking Japan and inflicting terrible but well known casualties on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we forced the Japanese Imperial leadership to realize that would could systematically destroy their homeland without an invasion.

That is what brought about their “unconditional surrender”.

My father-in-law, a veteran Army soldier (75th JASCO) of 4 Pacific Island landings including Tinian, Saipan and Iwo Jima told me that he knew he wasn’t going to come back.

My father was on standby orders with the Chemical Warfare Service to go to Australia to help oversee our Chemical weapons already prepositioned there in case the Japanese resorted to them in their final homeland stand.

Another friend of mine, a medic, was onboard a ship sailing for Japan when the big ones were dropped. He said once they got the word what happened, the ship turned around to another destination.

We are here today because our fathers/relatives/in-laws and complete American soldier/sailor and Air Force men and women did not have to go “in” to Japan.

Never let the Left tell you that using the atomic bomb was immoral. It was the most “moral” thing Pres. Truman could do to save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of American, Allied forces, and Japanese soldiers/civilians lives.

No regrets. Only wish he had more A bombs to take out the Mainland Japanese armies.


37 posted on 04/01/2018 10:04:45 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: sevlex

#20. Our “millenials” today, for the most part, could never have qualified for the military in WW2. What a sad state of affairs that our liberal mental faggots can never measure up to their grandfathers, uncles, and neighbors.


38 posted on 04/01/2018 10:07:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: IncPen

ping


39 posted on 04/01/2018 10:12:15 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: BBell

My dad was a snot-nosed 17-year old kid on this day back then....a PFC BAR Rifleman, 1st Marine Div, G27
He was in the first wave to hit the beach....good thing too because the Japanese weren’t zeroed in with their firepower. The 2nd and 3rd waves were the ones that literally caught holy hell coming ashore. He really never talked much about it until the last few years of his life. The things he told us were almost unbelievable about how bad the fighting was. A year or so before he passed, the USMC sent a contingent to his home and presented him with a commendation for his WWII service. He passed a couple of years ago.
FWIW, he had me shooting a little single-shot .22 by the age of six. He taught me how to hunt, fish, live off the land...and how to fight. He was more than just my dad, he was my best friend, my hero and I miss him terribly so.
Back then, he was the same age as this little twerp, Hogg, but 100 times more a man...lugging around a BAR killing America’s enemy so little snowflake twerps like Hogg are free to go around and bitch & moan about guns.


40 posted on 04/01/2018 10:29:32 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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