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Siblings suffer serious injuries in dog attack as city set to adopt new animal control bylaw
Global News The Canada Press ^ | August 20, 2018 | Sidhartha Banerjee

Posted on 08/21/2018 12:01:39 PM PDT by Norski

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To: logi_cal869
Frankly, at its core there many similarities between this “dog” debate and the gun control debate; it’s a bit shameful that more people here don’t see the hypocrisy of arguing against one but not the other.

None at all.

With guns, inanimate objects, the responsibility is fully with the human.

The dog is an independent agent that can act as such.

No gun ever picked itself up off the table or escaped from the gun safe and started shooting people at random.

41 posted on 08/21/2018 1:34:59 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: lee martell
The owner of the dog warned the Grandma, that this dog should wear a muzzle, 24/7.

Any dog that dangerous should be put down.

42 posted on 08/21/2018 1:35:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Norski

That was long. Let me know when the Reader’s Digest version is available.


43 posted on 08/21/2018 1:39:58 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: lee martell

“If that condition is needed, then obviously this particular dog is not suit to stay indoors at all unless it’s in a kennel.”
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If that condition exists, then obviously this particular dog should not have been out of a shelter or a pound at all. It should have been put down as a dangerous dog much before this.

From the reference to the “freedom driver” it may have been - and probably was - taken somehow from a shelter where it was due to be euthanized for dangerous behavior and/or attacks, and brought from the US to Canada.

More on this subject, Excerpt at the link below:

https://www.animals24-7.org/2017/06/02/how-multi-state-effort-to-save-the-pit-bull-blue-led-to-code-blue-for-margaret-colvin/

“Reportedly surrendered for biting a child, Blue was routed through five rescue programs in six months before killing 90-year-old

VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia––Fatally mauled by a pit bull named Blue just six hours after Forever Home Rescue & Rehabilitation delivered him to her daughter Linda Colvin Patterson at their home in Virginia Beach, Virginia, Margaret M. Colvin, 90, died at about 6:30 a.m. on June 1, 2017, after enduring an arm amputation as surgeons struggled to save her life.”


44 posted on 08/21/2018 1:41:32 PM PDT by Norski
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To: be-baw

Yes. You are correct, I am sorry. I am afraid that this article is the Reader’s Digest excerpt.

It is much more readable and interesting with illustrations and comments at the site. In addition, the print is larger. I will attempt to “rein it in” in future. Norski


45 posted on 08/21/2018 1:45:03 PM PDT by Norski
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To: logi_cal869
The grandmother was negligent, reckless and overwhelmingly responsible for the attack. Stupid, stupid woman.

 

Insulting the woman like that insults all pitbull owners.

Mean, hostile, agressive people own mean, hostile, agressive dogs.

We obviously see that on pitbull threads where angry agressive apologists insult those with rational intgelligence who know better than to own a dangerous animal

46 posted on 08/21/2018 1:52:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Norski

Yup didn’t even have to read the article to guess the breed. Kinda like how I can guess with almost 100% success rate the culprit when a “patron” goes berserk in McDonalds or Burger King or a “driver” mows down a bunch of folks on the sidewalk.


47 posted on 08/21/2018 1:57:30 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: Norski

No problem...:^)


48 posted on 08/21/2018 1:59:40 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: logi_cal869

“...Frankly, at its core there many similarities between this “dog” debate and the gun control debate...”

Total BS!!!!!!

Name one time a firearm has killed someone withOUT a person using it....

A weapon is inanimate...A canine IS animate...

Two totally different things...


49 posted on 08/21/2018 2:03:52 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You are seriously unhinged.

She ignored warnings that the dog was aggressive (24-hour muzzle?), and rather than sequestering the dog to a kennel or crate permitted it free exposure to endanger the children.

This was 100% preventable and NOT - as you hysterically declare - besmirching of other owners.

Bad grandmother, bad dog handler, deserved of any & all sanctions coming her way.

You have a serious reading comprehension and emotional overreaction problem; you might want to re-read what I wrote without your rose-colored glasses after taking a big breath.


50 posted on 08/21/2018 2:04:25 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: metmom

Are you being intentionally daft?

Had she not brought the dog into the house to begin with this story would have no basis in fact.


51 posted on 08/21/2018 2:06:30 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

Changing my tagline. Just for you.


52 posted on 08/21/2018 2:08:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Mean, hostile, agressive people own mean, hostile, agressive dogs.)
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To: metmom; logi_cal869

I typed my response #49 to logi_cal869 before I read your comment...We looked at this thing exactly the same...


53 posted on 08/21/2018 2:08:51 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: SunTzuWu; Norski
Only 76% of all deaths due to pitbull & rottweiler. You tyhink not mentioning this will cut the percentage down? Actually, it is growing, not diminishing. Maybe you could pick up on the deaths not due to dogs bred to kill?
54 posted on 08/21/2018 2:11:52 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Norski

Thanks for posting the entire article. It confirmed what I have seen with my own eyes. A dog bred for certain jobs will always be that way no matter the household or type of raising you do.
My Jack is a stubborn dog but will listen unless she is on the hunt. At that point it is all that matters to her.
You can’t train out breeding no matter how hard you try.


55 posted on 08/21/2018 2:27:10 PM PDT by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: imardmd1

“Maybe you could pick up on the deaths not due to dogs bred to kill?”
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I am considering the action at this time. I welcome feedback on this.


56 posted on 08/21/2018 2:33:57 PM PDT by Norski
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To: JBW1949

It’s so blindingly obvious that someone has to be willfully obtuse to compare them.


57 posted on 08/21/2018 3:49:34 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: be-baw

“If an ox gores a man or woman to death, the ox must surely be stoned, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the ox shall not be held responsible. But if the ox has a reputation for goring, and its owner has been warned yet does not restrain it, and it kills a man or woman, then the ox must be stoned and its owner must also be put to death. “

Exodus 21:28, 29

Apply that to all domestic animals & their owners.


58 posted on 08/21/2018 4:07:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

Yes. Thank you for reminding me. I have been intending to reread the- what- 416, 418 Mosaic Laws (Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) because I believe that they are applicable to this situation, as to most others.

Exodus21: 28,29 is drastic.

Note for those who desire to know : Exodus 20 contains the Ten Commandments.

We have so many, many thousands of laws. We cannot keep those, either.


59 posted on 08/21/2018 4:30:05 PM PDT by Norski
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To: logi_cal869

+1


60 posted on 08/21/2018 5:53:05 PM PDT by BraveMan
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