Posted on 12/10/2018 6:35:08 PM PST by EdnaMode
It is a relief he did not graduate from my college (UGH!). He is a big disappointment on the thinking side of life.
IQ of a grapefruit.
Essentially everyone I work with is a genius ... None of us take the “Moon landing hoax” conspiracy theories seriously.
There is something about this that crystalizes the hidden gap between our cultures.
This is the shiboleth to decide whose side you are on and what culture you are from.
How do you pronounce the answer to did we go to the moon?
If you say yes you are of one culture, if you say no you are from another.
This has no take on your intelligence - it’s a take on who you trust and what you believe.
Obviously we went to the moon and if time permits we will do it again.
I usually try to reach people by asking these questions.
1. Can you get to the top of the empire state building.
2. Can you fly in a plane at 35,000 feet?
3. Can rockets take satellites to orbit the earth to enable the gps system for your phone?
4. Then what is so unbelievable about a rocket taking a man to the moon?
But that unscientific line of incremental reasoning is not enough. The barrier between cultures rules the mind.
One of my most prized possessions was a piece of the first moon landing set.
Unfortunately, I lost it during a move. Stupid, I know.
I consider it a character flaw in my friend. This fellow did things I consider genius. Self taught, mostly. No college.
I suspect that allowed him to think outside the box more than most. But it left gaps in subjects such as physics and orbital mechanics.
It does not change our relationship, except I ignore the obvious blind spots.
This has no take on your intelligence - it’s a take on who you trust and what you believe.
Exactly. My friend profoundly distrusts pronouncements by various governments.
Those pesky Van Allen Belts have never been fully explained.
I am certainly not a man of science. I am simply open to continuing the discussion.
I remember reading, fifty years ago, in SCIENCE AND MECHANICS magazine about how the Russians and USA faked the orbits and moon shots.
Too many concussions. The boy ain’t right in the head.
Is the sarcasm tag really needed??
Sadly I think you're mistaken.
Go to an middle school and ask who Curry is and who Armstrong is. It's gonna make your head hurt.
would the Russians have kept quiet if we tried to fake it?
what would be in it for them?
Well Neil Armstrong was about 50 years.
But I would imagine around that time, Joe Namath was probably about as famous as Neil Armstrong.
Ah, no. Anybody that questions it is a retarded idiot.
It's really a matter of who, and what, you trust. You didn't go to the Moon; neither did I. So first-hand knowledge is not available to us.
There are really two questions at hand:
1) Is it physically possible to "go to the Moon"?
2) Has anybody ever actually done it?
(1) Can be answered, to a certain extent, by observations that are within the capability of most folks of reasonable intelligence who have the time to make them. Nothing particularly "modern" is required; Isaac Newton and Johannes Kepler would certainly have had something to say about it.
(2) Is a bit more complicated. Since only a double handful of men have ever claimed to have accomplished the feat, it falls to trusting them, and the tens of thousands of people who helped them do it ... Are they trustworthy? Is the physical evidence they provide credible? A generation raised on "Fake News" and systematic lying in high places may, perhaps, be forgiven its doubts. I seem to be finding more reasons, every day, to detest the liars in Big Government and Big Media.
think outside the box
Unconventional thinking has its merits. It is at its best, though, when based on an understanding of conventional thinking. If we all had to start from zero, we'd get nowhere. One of our great strengths, as a society, is our ability to build on the knowledge of our ancestors. "We stand on the shoulders of giants."
It does not change our relationship
Nor should it. Friendship is vastly more important than trivial disagreements.
Rockets are launched from Cape Canaveral fairly often. Any doubter can go watch one, and try to explain why anyone would go thru the trouble & expense of actually doing a launch, only to “pretend” something comes of it. And once you’ve reached orbit, going to the moon isn’t really that big a problem, just a matter of scale.
Here’s a new question I just heard...
“Who was shooting the film from the surface of the moon of the Lunar Module take off? Was that same person left behind on the moon to manually zoom in?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs
I only ask because of the absolutely unintelligible answers from the NASA geniuses after the last Mars rover thingie... the NASA guy couldn’t even tell what file type was used for the Mars imaging! LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-kUH942awQ
Everybody knows we didn’t go to the moon. We had to use the funding to make sure Guam didn’t capsize. /s
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