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Surviving 285: Oil and gas boom wreaks havoc on southeast NM highways
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | March 2nd, 2019 | Ollie Reed Jr.

Posted on 03/03/2019 4:54:30 PM PST by CedarDave

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To: CedarDave

I only counted 10 or 12 trucks in that line. No doubt there had been a train that had gone through.


21 posted on 03/03/2019 7:29:50 PM PST by crz
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To: marktwain

Explain these trucks to me then. The state of Michigan allows 164,000 gross with the right configuration.

Even the county roads are not nearly as bad as the roads are here in AZ. AND THAT INCLUDES I 40.

AND they have to contend with frost up there.


22 posted on 03/03/2019 7:40:28 PM PST by crz
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To: marktwain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYVrdSnA3GA


23 posted on 03/03/2019 7:40:40 PM PST by crz
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To: CedarDave

Traffic lights would help to ease the conjestion instead of stop signs


24 posted on 03/03/2019 8:59:53 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Wow...that was many decades ago :-)


25 posted on 03/03/2019 9:02:52 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: LaRueLaDue

If only NM’s tech/proficiency could catch up with it’s amazing climate.


26 posted on 03/03/2019 9:05:37 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

NM is a very LIB state with a preponderance of LIB losers. That explains it all.


27 posted on 03/03/2019 9:08:35 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Farmer Dean

As a matter of fact, they do. The
feds assign higher taxes on heavy
haulers just for that reason.
Municipalities have truck routes
that are partially subsidised by
the feds, as maintenance costs
where trucks travel are quite a bit
higher. Weather is a big factor when
a road is designed. Extreme hot and
cold temps range combined with heavy
weight will tear up any road. US 285
is a good example. It was designed
to federal standards to transport
transuranic waste. From Clines Corners
to Fort Stockton, the road, in certain
sections is torn up.


28 posted on 03/03/2019 11:57:22 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Married with Children

To be honest those aren’t the roads they’re talking about but you get close when your around Artesia. It’s the far south east corner where all the drilling and production is taking place, your kind of skirting around the major play. I put in some wells west of Artesia up in the Dagger draw area but it’s nothing compared to the area around Jal, Eunice and Hobb’s. It starts to fade out up around Milinsands. That road from Hondo to Roswell is a fairly new road, it used to be two lane all the way from the Texas line to Ruidoso.


29 posted on 03/04/2019 3:38:30 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: CedarDave
You cannot believe the kinds of holes that are in it now.

Sounds like S.E. Michigan

30 posted on 03/04/2019 3:44:15 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: marktwain

“”Heavy trucks don’t damage a properly designed road.””

The main problem is they don’t design the road wide enough in that area, they have little to no room. They need more hard shoulder, the trucks start breaking down the asphalt at the edges and it just keeps working towards the center. I hit one of these last year and cracked two rims on the right side of the truck, they leave a sharp shoulder and can be as deep as a foot.


31 posted on 03/04/2019 3:47:44 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: CedarDave

At the 2:00 mark, looks more like poor traffic management rather than volume. High speed, 4 lane highway and the only means to cross it is a stop sign? That’s a recipe for disaster.......


32 posted on 03/04/2019 3:52:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: CedarDave

“When (trucks owned by private contractors) are charging oil companies $130 an hour, that’s costing the industry millions of dollars.”

I’m trying to figure out why he threw that comment in there? I’m in the oil and cattle business also and these trucks are just part of the business. I have trucks coming in to haul oil and water several times a week and have them in to haul cattle about once a year, we have to have them or we’re out of business. We’re doing some re-entries into some older shallow wells in the back of the ranch and we have a tone of trucks working that area. Cementing, drilling, fracing, vacuum trucks and sand trucks and trailers. Not sure what his problem is but these are all necessary if your in the business. We’ve got 42 square miles of ranch with production throughout. We own the surface and the minerals and do all the production ourselves.


33 posted on 03/04/2019 3:57:23 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
“When (trucks owned by private contractors) are charging oil companies $130 an hour, that’s costing the industry millions of dollars.”

Seems clear to me. When you have a big rig costing $130 an hour idling in traffic instead of being productive, resources are being wasted that would be more productive moving product.

34 posted on 03/04/2019 4:02:14 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

That’s nothing. I remember going NW out of Las Vegas on US 95 in the early 90s, when the main highway was a divided 4-lane with a speed limit of 60 and NO stop signs at the side roads. People would just come along and sail right across the highway without slowing down. Damnedest thing I ever saw, but no sign of any wrecks.


35 posted on 03/04/2019 4:04:38 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: CedarDave

Try driving 86 from Jamestown to Buffalo some April.....not a lot of super heavies running on it - just poor maintenance.


36 posted on 03/04/2019 4:15:39 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: marktwain

Your right I misread it, wish he’s have thrown in the idling in traffic, then I wouldn’t feel so foolish about my answer.


37 posted on 03/04/2019 4:52:36 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Most of the roads and some may still be used to be open range, cattle in the roads was always a hazard. New Mexico speed bumps! Nothing like flying down the road in the dark and come up on some black cattle in the road. Dead cows on the side of the road was a pretty common sight back then. East of the ranch there’s a 14 mile stretch of road that’s open range and they have a few cattle hit every year. You don’t drive away from one of those, they even disable the big trucks. You hit a cow in a open range area and your responsible and of course that particular cow will always be his best and highest priced one.


38 posted on 03/04/2019 4:58:23 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road

***cattle in the roads was always a hazard.***

We used to have a joke about the Navajo horses in the 4-Corners area.
Flying down the road, you hit a horse that was worth maybe $200. The instant you hit it it suddenly becomes a $5000.00 race horse!


39 posted on 03/04/2019 7:01:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Traffic lights would help to ease the congestion instead of stop signs

Definitely, and not that costly to install temporary ones while permanent ones are engineered and installed.

40 posted on 03/05/2019 9:57:08 AM PST by CedarDave (A better name for US Public Schools: Propaganda Indoctrination Centers)
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