I hate flying. I can’t imagine what these people experienced in the last moments of their lives.
Prayers for all. How sad.
#92,284 not to fly.
Who were the pilots in each case?
I thought that Boeing issued instructions how to disable this feature with a flick of a switch after the first crash?
I reserve judgement until the facts are known. It may have nothing to do with the plane itself.
That being said, I will most certainly try to avoid that model for now.
[Flight data showed erratic climbs and descents ]
When I see reports of similar, it always makes me think “flight control surfaces”. One that comes to mind suffered a detachment of an elevator, IIRC. (one critical attachment of an elevator).
Guess we’ll find out.
I rode a Southwest MAX 8 yesterday BOS-DEN, very nice and it didn’t crash.
Mine had huge life rafts in the ceiling. Must be getting close to ETOPS certification for HNL.
Who keeps putting “braking” in the keywords?
Someone from DU?
Boeing took a 50 year old design, and modified it ti fit the latest generation of engines to it. They were able to do this by moving the engines forward, lifting the nose up a few inches, and changing the tail cone.
This caused the airplane’s handling characteristics to change. Basicly the airplane has a tendency to lift the nose.
So the Boeing engineers tried to remedy the situation by programming the airplane’s MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System) to help the pilots bring the nose down in case the nose it drifted too high. In the Indonesia crash, The problem was that this wasn’t even written in the Flight Crew Operations Manual (FCOM), and crew didn’t know about it.
Ethiopian pilots maybe not so much.
According to Boeing’s own employee training, the most important ethics is ensuring a black person is on every team, not making airplanes that don’t crash.
I kid you not. When Boeing speaks of ethics they speak about minorities being included on every team. They never speak about airplane safety in their ethics programs.
In the early 90s Boeing had trouble with their rudder control where the pilot inputs would sometimes reverse themselves so a right rudder input would make the plane yaw to the left. It wasn’t until a plane with the problem was able to land safely that the issue was revealed.
I wonder how accurate this report is:
Incompetent third-world “pilots”.
Shoulda used the eight rupee/hour programmers instead of the five rupee/hour programmers.
Back in the days when the F-16 was a test plane at Edwards, those of us who flew the 15 and others said, “Never pilot a plane when you are only a voting member.”
That used to be Boeing’s philosophy. Now they appear to be approaching the Airbus philosophy. IMHO, not good.
I flew SWA all the time, until that Lion Air crash. Now I’m more reluctant.
Pilot error.
Until evidence to the contrary is discovered, it’s always pilot error. The dead pilot can’t prove he didn’t do it and that lets everyone else off the hook.
I wouldn’t be flying on any plane in one of those third world countries