Posted on 04/08/2019 7:48:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin
People forget that one big contributor to cancer is viral infections.
If you’re workin’ the farm and outdoors you’re more likely to get that exposure as well compared to your average suburbanite.
The subject in this thread is quite interesting to me on many levels, and I could write a blue ton about herbicides in general. I pretty accurately recall in the huge case last year...I believe I saw a photo of a section of the court documents posted on TV...that there was ANOTHER herbicide besides Roundup named in the court documents. Surprisingly (to me) is that I did not recognize the brand name of the herbicide and thus its commercial name active ingredient.
I meant to look that up when I encountered this revelation. I did not. However it just goes to show you that there's ALWAYS something else to stories. And how old was this first plaintiff? How long did he use this stuff? Was it really the Roundup (glyphosate) or the other named product? Did this guy follow directions and precautions? Did he use tobacco and/or drink (both of which I feel will exacerbate or trigger potential health problems if used to excess for prolonged periods.)
Someone mentioned "Pedro" letting this stuff slosh around in the back of his truck. Well, I not sure but I would pretty much guarantee something along this line happened to a small college campus in Ohio some years ago. This college prided itself on how well the grounds were kept, but apparently some turf boobs applied a broad spectrum killer to pretty much the whole campus and really wiped out everything. At the time I said someone didn't or more likely can't read a label. I'll leave it at that.
I'm in favor of herbicides and of course, their proper use. However, these herbicide manufacturers are not blameless as their marketing and display techniques almost actively encourage the overuse and misuse of the products. I've got a real bad jones against them on how they label their stuff.
I could write an opus about this but will stop for now.
Atrazine.
Yep. I remember run off problems with it when I was a kid. The popular thing to do then was to top dress the corn and sorghum with a mix of atrazine and “28” nitrogen.
Atrazine is still widely-used in the US.
And, I’ve still got some Chlordane left in a coffee can in my garage. Inherited it from my Mom.
No ants in MY yard!
:: 1-1-1 Trichloroethane worked for me. ::
R-111. Montreal doesn’t like you!
Certainly better at generating birth defects.
I think the State of California causes reproductive harm.....TO BABIES.
Imagine what chemicals are poured on the veggies we get out of Mexico. They don’t care about our health but want prime good looking stuff to sell to us.
Since californicate has stopped the irrigation there to protect some stupid fish we have to eat the crap that comes out of Mexico.
I’m a farmer. I add lime to reduce acidity and raise pH.
And like the previous poster, honeysuckle is a bear and impossible to eliminate.
Both are safe WHEN USED ACCORDING TO LABEL INSTRUCTIONS.
Careless use of all sorts of chemicals — natural and synthetic — can be carcinogenic.
Nobody claims that anywhere close to 100% of the people even using it heavily get cancer, or anything else, from it.
How many Monsanto employees spend their time rolling in it?
Not too many, I’d imagine.
Why would environmentalists hate safe weed killers?
No need for herbicide along the fence lines of our farms, thank you. If weeds need cutting, we’ve plenty of mowers that can get close enough for that, including under electrified barbed wire.
Not that hard to compare farm populations exposed to specific herbicides — and those not.
OK. I need some salt and pepper...and maybe a dash of Emeril’s Essence. I’ve got some crow to eat.
Here’s the lawsuit from last year which is the first one I’ve heard of about regarding Roundup and glyphosate in general.
DeWayne Johnson v. Monsanto Company, et al, No. 3:2016cv01244 – Document 52 (N.D. Cal. 2016) (May 2, 2016). Retrieved from https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2016cv01244/296571/52/.
DeWayne Johnson was a groundskeeper for a school district in CA. During his course of work he applied Monsanto’s Roundup and Monsanto’s Ranger PRO herbicide. Ranger PRO is the other herbicide I saw mentioned in a court document a long time ago and was not familiar with it. Ranger PRO is another Monsanto glyphosate product with a glyphosate content of 41% plus a surfactant to help the applied mix adhere and absorb into the plant more efficiently.
So...I had suspected the “other” herbicide in this lawsuit was something in the Pramitol family. Turns out it was not...just glyphosate by another name.
You can safely ingest a teaspoon of DDT.
How much safer do you want your pesticides?
Geez...real slow this morning.
And another thing: I seriously doubt being a groundskeeper for a school district limited his herbicide use and application to broad spectrum products that contain glyphosate. I would strongly speculate that he also took care of the turf with regards to controlling/eliminating broadleaf weeds that are a constant battle to control. For that he would encounter and use a varied array of products that are quite common: 2,4-D, dicamba, MCCP, triclopyr, quinclorac, etc.
Maybe the suit is going after the wrong mfr and vilifying the wrong stuff? Just sayin’... if Johnson had a broad scope of turf duties AND if one of those duties was controlling broadleaf weeds, then his exposure to the 2,4-D types of herbicide would be far greater than his exposure to glyphosate. That stuff I listed above I’ve used at one time or another. Its very odor and appearance is way more sinister than glyphosate.
Speculating that Monsanto (and now Bayer) is getting sued for perhaps another chemical being at fault because Monsanto is a big target and already a “bogeyman” due to the GMO hysteria.
I sprayed some cancer this past weekend.
My wife’s uncle had Dementia. He kept going nuts with the Roundup so we replaced the contents with Gatorade.
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