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Horrifying new video shows Aeroflot jet bouncing along runway (TR)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 05/16/2019 | Will Stewart

Posted on 05/16/2019 5:58:11 AM PDT by DFG

Horrifying new footage of the jet disaster that killed 41 in Moscow has emerged amid claims pilots made basic errors during the emergency because they were incapable of landing without the assistance of autopilot.

The Aeroflot plane can be seen bouncing down the runway before bursting into a deadly fireball at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport on May 5.

The footage emerged as an expert claimed that the experienced captain Denis Evdokimov - hospitalised as a result of the crash - had never previously manually flown the Sukhoi Superjet 100 in so-called 'direct mode' before the crash.

A lightning strike soon after takeoff forced the pilots to make an emergency landing but this should not have led to the flames in which dozens were burned alive or killed by toxic fumes, say authoritative figures in Moscow.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: aeroflot; evdokimov; moscow; sukhoi
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1 posted on 05/16/2019 5:58:11 AM PDT by DFG
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“...crashed because (the pilot had never actually flow the plane...”. Wow!


2 posted on 05/16/2019 6:02:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: DFG

It’s called porpoising. Pilot was behind on his reactions.


3 posted on 05/16/2019 6:05:31 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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4 posted on 05/16/2019 6:07:16 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine! Click ETL)
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To: wastoute

Yep, this is pretty fundamental.

Whether you land with A/P or not, you MUST know your speeds - critically final approach speed and stall speed. For us smaller guys, you want to get to ideally get to stall speed inches over the runway. For the big guys, you land with power with a steady angle of attack, and at final approach speed. That speed ensures you land on the main wheels, not the nosewheel.

And a bounce is recoverable in the small pistons - add a small bit of power, and control your bounce. With a jet, you can’t spool up with short bursts, as in a piston, so you MUST not land on the nosewheel.


5 posted on 05/16/2019 6:07:38 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: DFG

My pilot buddy says a good landing is when you can use the plane again. I’m thinking this does not qualify.


6 posted on 05/16/2019 6:16:17 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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7 posted on 05/16/2019 6:17:18 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine! Click ETL)
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To: DFG

The incompetent, poorly trained pilot killed his passengers.


8 posted on 05/16/2019 6:18:07 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (This Deplorable is not fooled by the Marxist-Stalinist totalitarians infesting the Dem Party.)
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To: ETL

Well, HE came in hot!


9 posted on 05/16/2019 6:18:21 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DFG

Obviously, he missed the arresting gear.

No Tailhook club for you!


10 posted on 05/16/2019 6:25:55 AM PDT by moovova
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they were incapable of landing without the assistance of autopilot.

Huh?? Have they ever actually landed an Airplane before??
11 posted on 05/16/2019 6:37:33 AM PDT by eyeamok
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For us smaller guys, you want to get to ideally get to stall speed inches over the runway.

What??? The best landings I have made have been smooth and NEVER approached stall speed. I have been in numerous landing situations, from carrier traps to text-book landings, even a Class C recovery. Not once did we ever come close to stall.

12 posted on 05/16/2019 6:39:38 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: eyeamok

[[[Huh?? Have they ever actually landed an Airplane before??]]]

“Nope, never had a lesson”.

Signed, Harry Callahan


13 posted on 05/16/2019 6:54:50 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: rjsimmon

A “stalled” plane is a landed plane... and a plane well above stall is a bouncing plane. YMMV, but I find landing slow - a few knots above stall, often with stall horn, gets me down with no bounce. My home field is a relatively short runway too.

Caveat: Will add a few knots or subtract a flap notch for gusts.


14 posted on 05/16/2019 6:54:53 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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Yeah. I would think you're pretty well committed at stall speed inches above the runway.

As to this Aeroflot pilot 1400 hours and never made a manual landing. Even if that's true I can't imagine he didn't know the correct airspeed and rate of decent to touch down. The article says the plane is built for a 3.6G landing but this was 5.5G or even more. Someone help me out here 3.6G is probably a maximum and that sounds pretty uncomfortable. So to say this guy came in hot is an understatement.

15 posted on 05/16/2019 6:57:46 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (# of takeoffs = # of landings)
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A “stalled” plane is a landed plane...

Nope. We were trained that we had to be able to takeoff immediately upon landing. Conditions on the airfield could change and being back in the air could very well be the safest place.

The approach/landing speed in the Prowler gave us 10-20 knots above stall.

16 posted on 05/16/2019 7:05:35 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: DFG

Hard to tell but I don’t see flaps fully extended.


17 posted on 05/16/2019 7:06:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Yeah. I would think you're pretty well committed at stall speed inches above the runway.

Nope. As an aviator you always have to consider alternatives, even when landing. Stall leaves you no options.

As to this Aeroflot pilot 1400 hours and never made a manual landing. Even if that's true I can't imagine he didn't know the correct airspeed and rate of decent to touch down.

He had to, and the A/C is dual pilot so his co-pilot was reading it off to him (if they followed procedures). He did was is called "porpoising" where he got into a situation where he was constantly inputting conflicting control commands into the situation and would pull back the stick when he bounced then point the nose to the deck. Truly poor airmanship.

18 posted on 05/16/2019 7:10:00 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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I try to stall out over the numbers but then again the small planes are so light the are almost impossible to get to hold onto the ground.


19 posted on 05/16/2019 7:10:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rjsimmon

piston or jet?


20 posted on 05/16/2019 7:12:15 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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