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1 posted on 05/17/2019 9:09:03 AM PDT by Red Badger
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I had an HP inkhet printer that I ended up throwing in the garbage because it kept saying I had non-HP ink and would not operate. I never bought any non-HP ink unless it was counterfeit and I did not know it. I always get my name brand inks at Office Depot or Fry's. I read online that a lot of people had trouble with HP printers giving a false reading on the ink type. I think the ink sensor was too aggressive. I am now using Canon printers with Canon ink.

At work, we all have HP laser printers with non-HP cartridges that work just fine.

2 posted on 05/17/2019 9:14:38 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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Now I know why the ink cartridges from wallymarts crap out three days after installation...


3 posted on 05/17/2019 9:16:54 AM PDT by Augie
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The article does not make the distinction between a COUNTERFEIT (a non-HP/Epson/Lexmark) and a refill or knock-off. The first instance is a violation of law. The second is a decision that many of us make to buy products that are clearly marked as being compatible or refills, but NOT the official product.

My HP LaserJet CP1518ni cost me $199 new, a great price. It would cost me more to buy it a new set of four (CMYK) cartridges. The knock-offs are $20 each, and are good enough for my use. Once in a while you get one that spills and makes a mess inside the printer. It is STILL worth it even accounting for that.


4 posted on 05/17/2019 9:17:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If the printer companies, e.g., HP, don’t play fair, why should we?

When I managed an office, our vendor was selling HP cartridges for an excellent price, so I stocked up. A couple months later I installed one, and it wouldn’t print because it had passed its expiration date. I checked the wrapper and sure enough, there was an expiration date. The cartridge connected with the time/date on the PC, and it simply would not print. Boy, was I ticked off!

Finally, I changed the time and date in the PC before installing, and it worked right away with no problem. I reset the correct time and date it was fine. There are a lot of reasons to hate HP, and that’s mine.


8 posted on 05/17/2019 9:23:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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I have been using Brother multi-function machines for years. I always buy non-OEM cartridges off of Ebay for a small fraction of the OEM price and have never had any issues.


10 posted on 05/17/2019 9:32:00 AM PDT by KevinB (If I'm ever arrested, I'm switching parties.)
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I’d rather pay fedex/kinko’s $.07 per page than deal with this garbage.

(Mind you, I use paper as rarely as possible, not to be green, but just because it’s a hassle. That and because why spend $60 on cartridges that will go bad before I finish them vs. $2 at Kinko’s...?)


16 posted on 05/17/2019 10:00:27 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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I am so glad computers have given us a paperless world /s


17 posted on 05/17/2019 10:03:25 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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There wouldn’t be a market for counterfeit printer inks if the companies that manufacture the cartridges would cut their prices.

H.P.’s inkjet cartridges are not cheap and you can go through them very quickly.

It’s time for H.P. And the other printer companies to become proactive and cut their prices.Maybe even supply ink refill kits so there would be less wasted plastic in the form of cartridges.


18 posted on 05/17/2019 10:13:57 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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What’s this “ink” stuff?
Is that related to sealing wax?


19 posted on 05/17/2019 10:21:13 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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“In addition, the ink and toner cartridges are more than just containers—they’re complex (read: expensive) pieces of technology.”

What bunk.. If they were so complex and expensive, the knock offs would not be able to be sold so cheap either.

Reality is, they essentially give you the printer and then rape you for the ink.... charging far more than its weight in precious metals for them.


21 posted on 05/17/2019 10:31:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Black and white laser printers are the only way to go. I’m into my sixth year with an HP 400 class model. I just replaced the toner cartridge for the first time. The first one was good for over 4500 copies. With paper, that was about 2 cents a page. Ink dries out and is way, way overpriced.


26 posted on 05/17/2019 10:42:39 AM PDT by FXRP (Just me and the pygmy pony)
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Most of the new toner cartridges are rated with both a total number pages printed and an expiration date.

Let’s say the cartridge is rated at 5000 pages and you print 5000 pages, with each page having only a period on it. Your toner cartridge is still full, but it will message you that you are out of toner.

Same thing with the expiration date. Say you install a new toner cartridge print a few pages, then shut it down and the next time you use it is after the expiration date. Once past that date, you get messages to guilt you into replacing the toner cartridge.

I have a Brother laser jet at home and I like it because it will continue to print after sending you the warning message. The warning message is annoying but I keep printing until the print quality degrades and then replace the cartridge. Usually 3 or 4 months after the first warning message.


27 posted on 05/17/2019 10:45:46 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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I utterly, unabashedly, and enthusiastically support the ink counterfeiters.


28 posted on 05/17/2019 10:53:52 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Printer companies make pikers like big Pharma and Lockheed-Martin blush with embarrassment.


29 posted on 05/17/2019 10:55:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Our office mimeograph is going on the fritz. What should we replace it with?


30 posted on 05/17/2019 10:56:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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If you want to be sure you are getting genuine printer ink cartridges buy them on eBay. No....wait....never mind!


34 posted on 05/17/2019 11:27:57 AM PDT by utax
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Flo-Tec toners work fine


38 posted on 05/17/2019 11:51:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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Businesses are starting to use blockchain / distributed ledger technology in the supply chain to stop counterfeiting.

It may not stop the counterfeiting where the consumer is aware he or she is buying fake merchandise, but at least protects consumers from thinking they have legitimate products when they are actually fake.

To bad we haven’t figured out how to do this with Republican politicians.


39 posted on 05/17/2019 12:21:52 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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I use a Canon printer...had a Lexmark printer but can't get the ink...also had a Kodak printer, ink been discontinued...

I want to buy an Alps...to print decals...

45 posted on 05/17/2019 3:58:12 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a DeplorablvYe Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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Still running an HP LaserJet 4 which is maxed out in RAM (32Mb). For what I need to print, it does the job just fine. If I want to print pictures, its so much easier and economical to go get them printed at the drug store or wallyworld plus they are printed on photo paper (which isn’t that cheap to begin with.)


46 posted on 05/17/2019 4:28:41 PM PDT by hughesm1 (The left is at war with natural law.)
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