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Rare Earth Metals: China’s ‘Nuclear Option’ In The Trade War
Oil Price ^ | 05/25/2019 | By Tsvetana Paraskova

Posted on 05/26/2019 7:39:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: glasseye
We have plenty, it is just cheaper to buy from China. Click bait.

While we have plenty in the ground, the facilities to mine and refine the raw materials are lacking. AND, the EPA will fight tooth and nail any program to actually produce industrially useful materials in the US.

We are our own worst enemy.

Look for a 5 year supply disruption if China cuts us off. The economy can go very far downhill in 5 years...

41 posted on 05/26/2019 9:39:26 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: SeekAndFind

We nee a ‘security reserve’ of these elements. In a time of war our defense industry would be damaged by a lack of these elements...


42 posted on 05/26/2019 9:44:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC bimbos stand WITH illegals against Americans and WITH China against our companies.)
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To: Spktyr
Plus, the Chinese Navy isn't run on "diversity" or "affirmative action".
 
43 posted on 05/26/2019 9:45:50 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (September 11, 2001 : Never forget, never forgive.)
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To: 2banana

We have these same rare earth minerals in the west and other nations. We buy them from China due to the fact they can produce them cheaper due to their labor costs. Impose huge tariffs on these and we will be competitive. The Chinese impose huge tariffs on our goods mostly agricultural that they are not competitive with.


44 posted on 05/26/2019 9:58:02 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Rare earth minerals,” aren’t.

There is absolutely no issue with finding more reserves of these metals.

We just need to encourage or allow more mining exploration. More “rare earth” minerals are out there, everywhere.

45 posted on 05/26/2019 10:11:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Or “social justice.”


46 posted on 05/26/2019 10:59:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cpdiii

However, the problem of the regulations, lawsuits and permitting will have to be cleared or companies will simply move out of the US because cranking up all those mines, mills, etc., will take most of a decade to get set back up and US companies cannot afford the gap in time. Congress could have cleared hurdles to speed things up in the last two years but they chose not to. Now good luck doing that with the Dems holding the House.


47 posted on 05/26/2019 11:17:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Article from the USNI from May 15th that cited comments from retired Navy Captain James Fanell confirms your post in regards too the Chicoms Navy.


48 posted on 05/26/2019 11:18:29 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Live Free or Die)
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To: MrEdd

This is why the Chinese have been swiftly moving to nuclear and hydro power and pushing domestic production. They will hurt for a while, but it will be short term.

Related reading: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-coal-imports/china-thermal-coal-imports-to-fall-10-million-12-million-tonnes-in-2019-nobles-echeverri-idUSKCN1RL0BC


49 posted on 05/26/2019 11:28:55 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As the world’s largest producer, the Middle Kingdom has a vice-like grip on rare earths supply.


every since B Clinton, as a favor to his Chinese & Indonesian buddies, closed the world’s largest rare earth mines, located in the US.


50 posted on 05/27/2019 4:15:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: vette6387
We have many of these materials, but we have not exploited them because of “environmental concerns” in many cases.

The question is how long it would take to bring new supplies online, and whether we have stockpiles to bridge that interval. If the U.S. government were responsible and competent, this would have been assured many years ago. My confidence level is not high.

51 posted on 05/27/2019 4:51:08 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
A massive supply of manganese lays untapped in northern Minnesota near Brainerd.
52 posted on 05/27/2019 4:52:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: rightwingcrazy
I think something a lot less dramatic than a Manhattan Project would get the US rare earth mining industry spun back up PDQ. It just takes an increment of national will.

Re: national will. The American left is anti-American. It would see such a crisis as an opportunity to severely cripple the evil U.S. economy, extort maximum political blackmail on tangentially related subjects, and exploit the crisis to drive U.S. living standards down and government control of the economy up.

The left would rather see the U.S. defense industrial base collapse and the U.S. edge in high tech industries disappear than to permit a single new mine on federal lands in the west. The left is at best indifferent -- and among its "advanced" thinkers, is actively hostile -- to economic growth. Economic decline would increase political pressure for increased redistribution. That ultimately is why the left is so enamored of policies that are economically counterproductive. Leftists don't see a downside.

53 posted on 05/27/2019 5:00:31 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: SeekAndFind

Afghanistan has more rare earth elements than China.

CIA fact sheet 2010.

Then again, fwiw.

5.56mm


54 posted on 05/27/2019 5:17:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Is American Manganese publicly traded?


55 posted on 05/27/2019 5:24:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Look! The troll is back!


56 posted on 05/27/2019 5:26:32 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Necessity is the mother of invention, and U.S. materials R&D is continually researching replacements for many rare earth minerals, and if ever push comes to shove, that R&D will be greatly boosted. Replacing rare earth minerals with more plentiful earth materials, and their combinations, is going to become a very big industry.


57 posted on 05/27/2019 6:21:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

China just doesn’t get it with their earth metals.....they can’t eat them. So all the wealth in the world really all comes down to food and shelter. The United States exports more food than any other country in the world. Want some, China. It’ll cost you earth metals you seem to thing is so important. And no matter how many earth metals you have, you can’t feed your people as it is. In the world of supply and demand, which one is more important, earth metals or food? Supply and demand....

rwood


58 posted on 05/27/2019 6:36:04 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: sphinx

I just read where we tried “reopening” a mine (in Nevada as I recall) so the Chinese dropped prices on their stuff, made it uneconomical for us to operate, bought it when it was forced to close and now run it and ship the raw material to China for processing. We need to be way smarter if we’re going to beat this ba$tards. We do have the hole card in the trade war. At the end of the day, if we cut them off, we can ruin them economically. It’s time to start that process. I am guessing that Trump wants to get past the election, so it’s not a campaign issue, then drop the hammer on them.


59 posted on 05/27/2019 8:40:59 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Panaca indeed - thank you.


60 posted on 05/27/2019 8:50:53 AM PDT by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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