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Memorial Day Remembrance: The Ball Turret gunner
Self | May 27, 2019 | Self

Posted on 05/27/2019 8:52:15 AM PDT by Retain Mike

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A blog recently published a couple of my Memorial/Veteran’s Day essays, but it looks like they have gone out of business. What follows is the one I did for this year. I knew many men like these growing up and my son was welcomed to the Marine Corps by a family friend who landed the first day on Tarawa. I am sorry my grandchildren will never meet anyone like them.

By the way, imagine you are a waist gunner raising the turret when the pilot says, “bail out now”, or you’re the pilot bringing the bomber in for a landing back in England.

1 posted on 05/27/2019 8:52:15 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

Garp.


2 posted on 05/27/2019 8:52:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: Retain Mike

Death of the Ball Turret Gunner. Remember that one.

Sorry but you’d have had to tranquilize me when i wasn’t looking and have me wake up in one as the only way I would get in there.

I like the idea of a fighting chance.


3 posted on 05/27/2019 8:57:48 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: Retain Mike

I remember that George Wallace was a B-17 tail gunner during WWII. Probably his small stature had something to do with his being selected for that location.

His Daughter attended Troy University while I was there. A really cute little blonde, maybe 5 feet tall.


4 posted on 05/27/2019 9:01:54 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Retain Mike
Fascinating reading material for Memorial Day 🇺🇸
5 posted on 05/27/2019 9:02:32 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Retain Mike

The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
Randall Jarrell - 1914-1965

From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

70,000 USAF men died in WWII


6 posted on 05/27/2019 9:03:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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“Washed Me Out
with a Hose”
.
Thank You,
Soldiers.


7 posted on 05/27/2019 9:05:00 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Retain Mike

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2eBxVxO0nh4

Liberals in Congress, IMO, won’t understand this video.


8 posted on 05/27/2019 9:05:07 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Retain Mike

9 posted on 05/27/2019 9:06:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Retain Mike

On the B-17(F and G models), the ball turret gunner could exit the ball without it retracting if he could rotate it into a position where the hatch aligned with the opening.

He would have to have electrical power to the turret however.

The G-forces on a spinning, falling B-17 would make it quite difficult for anyone - let alone the ball turret gunner going through all those steps, to exit.


10 posted on 05/27/2019 9:07:21 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Retain Mike

Good review of the amazing B-17, close ups of the turret..

https://youtu.be/OjRQXjcY6u0


11 posted on 05/27/2019 9:09:39 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: Retain Mike

Not a ball turret, but .....

I spent a lot of time hiking trails with a guy (knew him only from hiking). He had a crazy, lewd, almost maniacal sense of humor. He was deeply involved in being a great father. I liked him ... but always felt that mentally, he was moored by a somewhat frazzled, even thin strand. Then, years later, I found out that he was a door gunner on a helicopter gunship during the Vietnam War. This totally explained everything to me - not something he talked about and I only found out from a dear friend of mine (another Navy Vet who had been on the Forrestal during the fire) he had talked to about it briefly ....


12 posted on 05/27/2019 9:22:12 AM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Bombadiers had dangerous job too..my husband’s Uncle died in Switzerland as a result of being hit when over Politz


13 posted on 05/27/2019 9:22:50 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: yarddog
I remember that George Wallace was a B-17 tail gunner during WWII.

I think you mean Senator (Tail Gunner Joe) Joseph McCarthy.

George Wallace was a flight engineer.

14 posted on 05/27/2019 9:34:47 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Retain Mike
My Dad was Captain of a B24 in the Asia theater. The entire crew all made it home and had children and grandchildren.

They had reunions every five years for 40 years then switched to every year. When my brother called his crew to tell them of our Fathers passing, they wept like babies, 50+ years later!

15 posted on 05/27/2019 9:34:56 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Retain Mike

My dad was a supervisor in a plant where the Norden bombsight was manufactured. Because of that we had the only private telephone in the neighborhood.


16 posted on 05/27/2019 9:39:46 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Retain Mike

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDmO1LdKf0

Amazing Stories S1 EP5 ‘The Mission’


17 posted on 05/27/2019 9:39:52 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Rennes Templar

Thanks for sharing the video. My wife and I toured that exact B-17 earlier this year. A humbling and unforgettable experience.


18 posted on 05/27/2019 9:44:14 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kartographer

That’s one of my favourite pieces of film, and the first thing I think of when I hear ‘ball turret gunner’.


19 posted on 05/27/2019 10:08:30 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: Retain Mike
My uncle was a bombardier in Europe in WW2. Based on his tales (relayed by my dad) sitting in the plexiglass nose of the bomber while all the flak was being flung at you or fighters were swarming around wasn't much fun either.

He supposedly carried a big steel plate that he sat on or put under him somehow (not familiar with the arrangement) and after his 25 or so missions it was all pitted up. Scary stuff.

20 posted on 05/27/2019 10:10:36 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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