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DIY Home Improvment Question - Masonry/Concrete Question, How Conceal Tubes Against Wall
MyBrain ^ | Sept 16th, 2019 | me

Posted on 09/16/2019 11:40:33 AM PDT by gaijin

I am not a contractor, as I believe you will conclude:

(Foreword: The tape you observe in the photos was a TEMPORARY measure for initial tubing mount)

My goal is to enhance the aesthetic of the auto watering system that I expanded, and ran up the side of a verticle wall, from which I have taken down very many plants for now.

The timed watering system goes up outside of concrete wall via 0.5 inch plastic RainBird type irrigation tubing. Right now the aethetics of my set-up aren't great:

After I take down the temporary stuff, I want the irrigation tubes to appear conformal to the wall, attract less attention to themselves and not detract from the aesthetic of the house and plants. So that it appears less, "slapped on there".

Yes, best would be to excavate a half inch trench out of the concrete of the wall, place tubes in there, then concrete/masonry over that, let dry and paint for finish but I don't have the equipment to excavate the concrete from under there on that wall:

I must use some unknown material to smooth over the tubes, maybe concrete, maybe stucco, just something that after painting will not crack, will not fall off and that will stick to the concrete on the wall that you see there. Against all expectation I find that almost all Home Depot employees know little or nothing about basic construction, something that amazes me.

Most of them seem to be tattoo experts, however. So there's that, I guess. The one old guy who knows stuff is never working when I'm there.

My USA house is in a very temperate area that receives no snow, has no crazy temperature variations.

And yeah, I'm going to shorten the 0.5 inch tubing a half foot or so, so that you see the terminal cap on the left there is not sticking out, not all stupid as it now appears.

I'm also going to use a masonry bit to run the 0.25 inch watering line THROUGH the terra cota pot, and not up the side, all stupid, ugly gay style.

My two big questions are...

1. What material do I use to smooth over these tubes?

2. How do I do it..?


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1 posted on 09/16/2019 11:40:33 AM PDT by gaijin
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I would keep it simple.

Keep the pipes mounted external and build some covers to make it look nice.

Don’t even start destroying your masonry. It will make you $ad.


2 posted on 09/16/2019 11:44:45 AM PDT by Spruce
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Plaster might work. You could also get an air hammer and chisel out a channel. That would likely look best. However I’d be worried about getting to the pipes if something busted.

Another option might be to make a small wood box to fit over the ledge with an overhang to fasten the pipes too. Good luck


3 posted on 09/16/2019 11:49:07 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: gaijin

A search of YouTube for “Masonry/Concrete Question, How Conceal Tubes Against Wall” found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtIjqrPGJZY


4 posted on 09/16/2019 11:52:35 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: gaijin

Better off leaving the pipe as is and just paint same color as wall. No material you put there in an attempt to trowel over the pipes will stick well.

The pipes only “stick out” to you. Almost all stuff like that sort of fades into the background, so to say. Pay real close attention the next time you walk down the street and deliberately seek out wires, pipes, etc. You might be surprised how much you never noticed or thought about before.

E.g. Are you inclined to cover up that downspout visible on the right?


5 posted on 09/16/2019 11:58:26 AM PDT by fruser1
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Run your distribution tubes along the ground. Water your plants with the thin risers you show. Don’t mess with the concrete.


6 posted on 09/16/2019 12:00:58 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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E.g. Are you inclined to cover up that downspout visible on the right?

There are 3 little outspouts protruding from the bottom of the terra cotta pot, I guess those are okay.

The watering system goes around both sides of the big blue intra-wall pot, are joined and then descend --I would be trying to make those more subtle, also.

But all these answers are really good and have me thinking more, now.

7 posted on 09/16/2019 12:04:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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Do the pipes have to run like that? Can you re-route them to the ground at the base of the wall, and then run a single tube up through the bottom of the vase as in your original plan?

Stucco is difficult, at best to try to match if it's aged at all. So any work you do will stand out as a patch, unless you re-paint the entire face of the wall you cut into.

If that pot is the only thing you water from that pipe (can't tell if the pipe supply comes up from the ground to the "T" or from the right) they make tan piping for the line you want to run to the pot, so it won't stand out as much, and could be re-done smaller all the way arouund. 50' 1/4" Tan Water Hose - shorter lengths are available, just got this first click.

8 posted on 09/16/2019 12:05:28 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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E.g. Are you inclined to cover up that downspout visible on the right?

Ah! You're talking about the rain downspout from the roof, okay.

I see.

Somehow I'd never considered that, and that seems to bear out what you say, that cuz I installed the plastic painted pipes, I am tending to think about them very much.

Hmm...

9 posted on 09/16/2019 12:05:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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Sorry, that link was to misting line. I’m not sure it’ll hold up to irrigation pressures. They make a brown color for irrigation, but not as light as that.


10 posted on 09/16/2019 12:08:52 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: gaijin
How about just hanging some of these over the tubes?


11 posted on 09/16/2019 12:12:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Use white duct tape.....................


12 posted on 09/16/2019 12:13:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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You've already got it!


13 posted on 09/16/2019 12:19:03 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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I think embedding them in the wall is a bad idea - especially if there is possibility of freezing.

Maybe upgrade the piping so that it looks like, or is, hanging rod? Then mount it to sturdy stand-off brackets, which you can hang pots or decoration from? Or vines?


14 posted on 09/16/2019 12:37:30 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Hiding your Claymores in the bushes is even harder!


15 posted on 09/16/2019 12:40:15 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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I would make a wooden box. Attach L metal bracket to the box were it will set against the wall (the back out side of the box). Them drill holes in the concert shelf were the bracket will fit. Secure it will screws (both box and concert. Secure the L Bracket to the box first, then to the concert.This would allow a small space between the box and the wall. Allowing water to run off the box if you make the box with a slopping lid. Make the box with hinges for a flip open lid. Have the lid to open away from the wall. So that the piping to the plants appear against the wall, and not over the top of the lid. Lay the piping inside the box. Now make a notch in the side of the box were the tubing will run to the plant. Close the lid. You can paint the box to match the wall or the shelf. Also with the box having an op enable lid you can arrange the plant piping wherever you need it. The box can be painted and maintained as needed in the future. If you no longer need the box. just unscrew it and disconnect the piping were it was fasten originally. Discard the box with all the inter piping in place . This setup will allow you to move the box to a different location if desired.


16 posted on 09/16/2019 12:46:28 PM PDT by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People."er)
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Terracotta pipes or tiles?

Many sizes and shapes are available online. They would allow you to access the tubing later, if needed. They can be filled with dirt and planted with ornamental plants. Suspended with zinc straps and ornamental hardware and painted if desired. Use outdoor caulk instead of mortar.
17 posted on 09/16/2019 12:52:19 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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My suggestion is to run a small diameter plastic pipe above and parallel to the ledge, at the same height as the top edge of the big pot.

Get window box style planters to flank the big pot on either side. The pipe above them becomes a manifold from which to water each of the three pots individually.

Plant one or more cutesy flowering vining plants in the boxes, and train them up and along the pipe. Additional smaller plants can go in the boxes, too, giving you a tiered effect.

Pipe now hidden.
No drilling the big custom-install pot, the wall, or any part of your home’s exterior.
No messing with the stucco, very important.
Maximize flower and foliage display.
Good artsy-fartsy effect with view from street. No ugly little clay pots.
Each pot’s water can be customized from its own downtube.


18 posted on 09/16/2019 12:52:42 PM PDT by Stalwart
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There are also many styles of pipe hanger (instead of duct tape) which could be used decoratively.
https://www.bing.com/shop?q=pipe+hangers+and+brackets&FORM=SHOPPA&originIGUID=DD9AFFD3234B478F99709AB02CAE381D


19 posted on 09/16/2019 12:57:14 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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Plant some vines to cover them.


20 posted on 09/16/2019 12:57:45 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (You cannot solidify control and power over people who are able to defend themselves.)
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