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Parkinson's Patients are Mysteriously Losing the Ability to Swim After Treatment
Discover Magazine ^ | November 27, 2019 1:00 PM | By Jennifer Walter

Posted on 11/27/2019 6:51:49 PM PST by BenLurkin

For Parkinson’s patients, deep brain stimulation (DBS) can help control a number of neurological symptoms, like muscle spasms and stiffness. But one weird side effect has surfaced in a string of case studies: Some patients, no matter how good their motor skills, lose their ability to swim after the procedure.

Researchers from the University of Zürich in Switzerland published a report today in Neurology identifying nine cases where patients couldn’t stay afloat after DBS. And these people weren’t water-shy, first time doggie paddlers — two of the cases involved former competitive swimmers.

And, researchers report, the entire cohort had had no trouble swimming even after their Parkinson’s diagnosis. Rather, it seems that the invasive procedure — which involves implanting electrodes around the brain and heart to intercept erratic electrical signals — is what triggered the patients’ lack of buoyancy.

Christian Baumann, a neurologist at the University of Zürich, said the research team garnered interest in the topic after they learned one of their DBS patients had jumped into a lake and almost drowned.

After the patient's brush with death, the doctors began asking others with DBS devices about their swimming abilities.

Three of the nine patients, they learned, had turned off their deep brain devices and immediately were able to swim.

This isn't the first time researchers have observed this odd connection. In 2015, four similar case studies spanning two decades were reported by researchers in Australia. Three of those patients drowned after suddenly losing their swimming ability after DBS.

(Excerpt) Read more at discovermagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: dbs; deepbrain; parkinsons; stimulation; swimming
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1 posted on 11/27/2019 6:51:49 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 11/27/2019 7:02:07 PM PST by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks BenLurkin. "Doc, will I be able to play the violin after this series of treatments?" "Yes, of course." "Great! I was never able to play it before."

3 posted on 11/27/2019 7:17:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

There is so much about what makes humans function that remains unknown or barely known.

Did you know we have three brains; Head, Heart & Gut.
*Head brain analyzes info and applies logic.
* Heart brain senses the world through emotion and feelings.
* Gut brain is used to understand our identity, and who we are in the world. The Gut brain helps us learn self preservation by teaching us to follow our instinct. ie.
“Gut feelings”.

My reference: Karen Jensen ND. posted 2017.


4 posted on 11/27/2019 7:22:07 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SunkenCiv

An oldie but a goodie.


5 posted on 11/27/2019 7:27:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: lee martell

In the same sense, God gave man a Brain and a Penis, but only enough blood flow to operate one of the two parts at a time.


6 posted on 11/27/2019 7:36:21 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

Yep. As a younger man, there were times when I didn’t know whether I was coming or going, so to speak.


7 posted on 11/27/2019 7:43:43 PM PST by lee martell
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To: BenLurkin

But can they still play the piano?


8 posted on 11/27/2019 10:00:30 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: BenLurkin

The excerpt is unclear. Can they not float anymore - or can they not swim anymore?


9 posted on 11/27/2019 10:08:55 PM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: BenLurkin

About 10 years ago, a neurologist in Holland discovered that about 20% of his Parkinson patients with severe walking impairments could still ride a bike around a jogging track.

Those patients did need assistance mounting, dismounting, and stopping the bike, but once they got some speed up, they could maintain their balance indefinitely.


10 posted on 11/28/2019 12:24:22 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: BenLurkin

Inquiring minds want to know...WHY?


11 posted on 11/28/2019 12:57:47 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: lee martell

We are one consciousness or soul that interfaces with the physical body it manifests at various locations.


12 posted on 11/28/2019 1:00:35 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: zeestephen

I perform consciousness research on a daily basis. This most likely relates to masculine left brain vs feminine right brain function.

Similar to what causes car sickness if a person sits in a back seat but not in front. Or sea sickness, the cure which is focus on the horizon.


13 posted on 11/28/2019 1:04:17 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Masculine consciousness is linear while feminine is non linear.

A ballerina doing pirouette across a stage will get dizzy and fall over without a linear focal point.

This is also the pattern of consciousness that causes teenage and mid life depression.


14 posted on 11/28/2019 1:08:31 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Very poorly written article as it does not mention where the brain was stimulated.

“Rather, it seems that the invasive procedure — which involves implanting electrodes around the brain and heart to intercept erratic electrical signals —”


15 posted on 11/28/2019 1:11:49 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I highly doubt these were “invasive” procedures on the deep brain..

A medical procedure is defined as non-invasive when no break in the skin is created and there is no contact with the mucosa, or skin break, or internal body cavity beyond a natural or artificial body orifice.


16 posted on 11/28/2019 1:14:59 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I stand corrected.

Deep brain stimulation involves creating small holes in the skull to implant the electrodes, and surgery to implant the device that contains the batteries under the skin in the chest.

This type of stimulation is not the same as TMS or Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation. It is similar to a pacemaker stimulation.


17 posted on 11/28/2019 1:20:11 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I can’t post pictures from my cell, but here is a link with an excellent graphic illustration on the procedure.

https://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/guide/dbs-parkinsons

The brain part stimulated is the thalamus which is the brain priority processing or focus control center. This is the same brain area that is malfunctioning in autism.


18 posted on 11/28/2019 1:27:19 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

They are deep brain. The stimulators are placed around the muscle control centers in the brain. I did anesthesia for the brain implants. We started in the CT scanner with the patient having a “ring” device placed on there skull and held in place with screws going into the bone of the skull (not brain). They then had a hood with coordinates etched into hood attached to the “ring”. After the CT the neuro surgeon used the coordinates from the CT to figure out exactly where the implants would be place. A calibrated device was attached to the ring. This device allowed the surgeon to drill a precise hole into the skull and advance the electrode into the exact position required. The patient was awake for most of the procedure. A little more complex but that is the main part. It was about a 4 hour procedure.


19 posted on 11/28/2019 2:58:43 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft

Wow...sounds exciting.

I am amazed at the 3D images created on screens to guide precision brain surgery and probes. My brother-in-law is a radiologist and stays current on all the new technology. He was telling me about the new imaging techniques.

What amazes me is that the probe goes all the way to the thalamus. That means through the cingulate gyrus and corpus callosum. I would think that the cingulate gyrus would resolve the Parkinson’s symptoms as it is involved in processing emotions and behavior regulation and also helps to regulate autonomic motor function.

Brain stem work is very dangerous.


20 posted on 11/28/2019 4:31:05 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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