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To: BobL

My Cardiologist of the last 20+ years at Cedars Sinai says it is incredibly hard on your heart.


7 posted on 01/02/2020 11:17:43 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS!)
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To: BunnySlippers
My Cardiologist of the last 20+ years at Cedars Sinai says it is incredibly hard on your heart.

Get a new cardiologist.
8 posted on 01/02/2020 11:23:06 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: BunnySlippers

I attended a cardiology symposium two years ago.
One speaker extolled the vegan lifestyle and two presenters later a pro keto speaker said the opposite.
I suspect the truth is somewhere in between.
(The keto guy looked happier than the vegan lady, FWIW)

The only way to avoid the aches and pains of aging is to endure the aches and pains of vigorous exercise.


9 posted on 01/02/2020 11:26:33 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: BunnySlippers

“My Cardiologist of the last 20+ years at Cedars Sinai says it is incredibly hard on your heart.”

So is being 100 lbs overweight. Many people here have spent decades working on their weight, doing what they were told (and often needless wrecking their knees), but nothing worked for them...until Keto.

As to your cardiologist, he could be right, he could be wrong...there are no long-term studies either way, since, I guess, it’s still considered a ‘fad’ by the medical community (although that is changing).

Think of it like the 2016 election. On the one hand, you had a flaming Leftist who we all understood where she’d take the country (similar to being morbidly obese), on the other had you had an unknown making claims that he’d be greatest president in history (somewhat similar to people who’ve had success on Keto)...so which choice is better. In that case, the unknown was, much, much, better. For this, time will tell...


12 posted on 01/02/2020 11:28:14 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BunnySlippers
"My Cardiologist of the last 20+ years at Cedars Sinai says it is incredibly hard on your heart."

And he's wrong. Practicing doctors typically only repeat the guidelines they're given about nutrition. They aren't personally familiar with the underlying science. That science was distorted in the past and is now slowly being corrected.

17 posted on 01/02/2020 11:31:51 AM PST by mlo
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To: BunnySlippers

Did you ask what exactly is heart harmful?


18 posted on 01/02/2020 11:31:56 AM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: BunnySlippers
The American Heart Association declared fat the enemy with no real evidence because the risk that it might be the cause of heart disease was too great to do nothing just because they lacked proper clinical studies. Since then, 60 years later, heart disease is not down at all.

But cardiologists still say that fat is the problem and write a script for a statin.

26 posted on 01/02/2020 11:45:44 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Sometimes we need to think independently and question the current belief systems.

I have dramatically improved my health, losing 120 lbs in 2 years on Keto. My doc is amazed and very impressed with the improvements in my bloodwork.

It takes a long time for the latest research to get out of the university research to practicing physicians. Nutrition is not a cut and dried exact science and many of the old studies were very flawed, epidemiological, and not clinically based.

For example: One of the early studies on cholesterol used rabbits. The results were that rabbits developed severe atherosclerosis when fed a high cholesterol diet.

Can you see the huge error/false assumption in that study, and why it should have been laughed off the stage, instead of being modifying our diet?

I wonder how many will read this and think outside of the box, and post the gigantic error. Will check in later to see.


27 posted on 01/02/2020 11:49:51 AM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: BunnySlippers

Many of us start dieting at the beginning of the year. Guilt from holiday feasting? Americans generally eat a crappy diet. our forefathers ate about 4 pounds of sugar per year on average. We are now up to 400 pounds according to something I read yesterday. There’s the problem. Keto is a way to retrain the body from a diet high in sugar, never mind the carbs. I don’t see it as a life style, more like an intervention. But us sugarholics need that sometimes.


33 posted on 01/02/2020 11:56:33 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: BunnySlippers

“My Cardiologist of the last 20+ years at Cedars Sinai says it is incredibly hard on your heart.”

Well, after 8 months...down 30 lbs. Cholestrol slightly down, but within the margin of error. Triglycerides down, HDL up, blood pressure without meds down to 120/80 (versus 155/105) - and my BP WITH medicine was 135/90.

If that is “incredibly hard on [my] heart”, so be it!


60 posted on 01/02/2020 12:45:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: BunnySlippers

Not the ones I have worked for; low carb all the way.


71 posted on 01/02/2020 1:12:28 PM PST by bella1 (Je suis deplorable)
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