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1 posted on 02/12/2020 1:07:24 PM PST by setter
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One of my favorite movies, I would love to see a high dollar Jerry Bruckheimer style remake done of it.

Any remake will be a woketard trainwreck.

2 posted on 02/12/2020 1:10:59 PM PST by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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That movie is one of the silliest premises for a movie...

But I love it! (I call it one of my ‘guilty pleasures’...:)

We have radar today that far outclasses anything in that day.

Our pilots know how to drop unguided iron bombs and can do so with far greater accuracy and at greater speed than they ever could, and can do it without GPS

The AA gunners could probably not hit them easily at their speed

I still think it would be very one sided.


3 posted on 02/12/2020 1:12:31 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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-—How handicapped would a modern carrier such as the Reagan or Ford be without GPS and military satellites? Isn’t everything pretty much now digital versus analog?-—

They’d manage fine and work around it, but eventually using up ordinance and the modern equipment needing fuel, maintenance and spare parts (which they didn’t have and couldn’t get) would eventually be a problem.

—Why did they take the Senator and Laurel to the island instead of Pearl?-—

They didn’t want them spilling the beans about the future tech they’d seen. They thought it would be temporary safe keeping there.

—Instead of going to Pearl to meet the Japanese why not attack the Japanese fleet? -—

Intercepting the attack planes was first priority. I’m sure they would have gotten to the IJN fleet right after. One modern carrier group could probably destroy the entire WW2 Japanese Navy in about 2 weeks.

The Timestorm caught up with them and it never happened, so they didn’t get the chance.


4 posted on 02/12/2020 1:12:47 PM PST by StoneRainbow68
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In all of those fantasy movies, it is probably best not to think too much.


5 posted on 02/12/2020 1:12:53 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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This may help (with the GPS question):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system


7 posted on 02/12/2020 1:14:10 PM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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Things would mostly work.

Realize that a modern aircraft carrier would only have enough modern jet fuel as she holds, after that unless the Navy is in the habit of putting how-to-refine-jet-fuel texts that are detailed enough to be of quick use to 1940s refiners the actual impact the ship could have is less in your face than for her tactical ability and historical knowledge. As for technical knowledge of her crew, think that one novel where a small US town ends up in Europe centuries ago for comparison ... only in spades.

Under those circumstances, the war will almost certainly start to go differently even if she never mounts an airstrike, her most valuable aircraft will not be the fighters and bombers but her surveillance and ASW craft.

The 1940s USN could absorb the ship and otherwise fly conventional 1940s attack planes from them early in the war when they were desperate for carriers. That said later on, and not THAT much later, the smart move would be to hold in reserve the valuable ship and her even more valuable crew to quickstart a technological revolution back home.

And not just for suddenly giving the US the whole basis for integrated circuits and advanced concepts of programming that otherwise took decades after the movie to earn.


11 posted on 02/12/2020 1:19:15 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I served on Nimitz for three years in the mid 80’s - and we didn’t have GPS. Every three days we’d take on 2.5 to 3 million gallons of JP-5. Back then we had A-6,
A-7, F-14 and S-3 - all gone now.


12 posted on 02/12/2020 1:20:08 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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The Nimitz was the first Navy ship I ever say

Will never forget having to tilt my head way way back to look up to the underside deck of that massive protector of freedom as my ex FIL drove slowly along the dock


13 posted on 02/12/2020 1:20:17 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Guns up . . . We cominÂ’ PS: Eric The Blower CIAramella. PASS IT ON)
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Would WWII fuel work in a modern jet?


14 posted on 02/12/2020 1:20:52 PM PST by aomagrat (Brains have been washed. Wheels have been greased. Fear has been mongered.)
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Surely modern US carriers have nukes aboard at all times when on station. The Japanese WWII fleet would not be a threat to a modern US Carrier. Take the carrier to position and launch nuclear armed cruise missiles at mainland Japan until surrender. War would be over in a few weeks.


15 posted on 02/12/2020 1:21:44 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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The saddest part of the movie was that Martin Sheen got stuck in the past, and Charlie was still somehow born.


16 posted on 02/12/2020 1:23:31 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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The thing that got me about the movie was that the date on the C-rations wasn’t a couple of decades ( or more ) old.


18 posted on 02/12/2020 1:24:48 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To offset GPS vulnerabilities, the US Navy has continued to maintain skill with the traditional method of determining ship location at sea through celestial navigation. In addition, the Navy is installing modern inertial guidance devices that rely on laser gyros. In short, while there would be some problems in the scenario you described, they would not cripple the Navy’s ability to operate effectively and carry out its missions.


22 posted on 02/12/2020 1:26:48 PM PST by Rockingham
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If a modern US aircraft carrier task force (because carriers don’t move around alone) did find itself around 300 miles northeast of Hawaii on December 6, 1941 I expect they’d quickly determine their temporal displacement.

Then they would likely contact Pearl Harbor to alert the Navy of the impending Japanese attack. This would be done convincingly with a helicopter and a flyover by F-18 Hornets.

If the Admiral in charge of the task force was audacious enough he’d have F-18 fighters perform another flyover but this time of the Japanese forces and then contact the Japanese fleet in the clear and let them know they had lost the element of surprise.

The Japanese would retreat.

The US would then be in a position to dictate peace in the Pacific and soon enough the US would dictate peace in Germany...perhaps by using a nuclear weapon on Berlin.

Russia would then be ordered to retreat from Poland and the Baltics because the task force would invoke Article V of NATO to defend our (future) NATO allies.

And millions of the best American men would have lived and the leftist scumbags who took over their jobs in the public schools could be rooted out and dealt with to prevent them from hurting our country.

One can dream, right?


24 posted on 02/12/2020 1:27:48 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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This (10min) video puts things into perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRsujLrQb6s


28 posted on 02/12/2020 1:30:17 PM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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Remember ‘we’ all stood around and said NO way or didn’t even think about the concept of
Jules Verne “20,000 Leagues under the Sea”
Chester Gould, “Dick Tracy” and his wrist watch
Al Capp, ‘Lil Abner’ The Schmoos were supposed to be the Politicians who could turn OUR money into Their money.
George Orwell ‘1984’ a look at the future.....hmmm
Ayn Rand, most of her writings
and more, just some off the top of my head....

Who knows what Star Trek etal will bring us???


30 posted on 02/12/2020 1:32:49 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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In the movie, it wasn’t the Nimitz, itself, that mattered,
it was the planes that she had on-board that made a difference.
The Nimitz (all carriers) was just a floating mobile airports.


32 posted on 02/12/2020 1:33:48 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life)
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Instead of going to Pearl to meet the Japanese why not attack the Japanese fleet?

They had to fire the first shot. We try not to start wars, but to finish them...

35 posted on 02/12/2020 1:39:21 PM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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I always wondered if an infrared missile would work on a Zero. Anyhow, here’s some pictures - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChU-mGeBaM


41 posted on 02/12/2020 1:47:35 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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There wasn’t any GPS when they made the movie.


53 posted on 02/12/2020 2:11:35 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!z)
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