Posted on 03/22/2020 9:19:49 AM PDT by Crucial
At some point in the near future it's my opinion that out covid-19 strategy should enter a new phase. The strategy's timetable would depend on an actual decrease in virus cases. The two facts that convince me that the virus will come under control is the successful use of drug combinations that drastically decrease mortality and the other is the approval of a 4 hour covid-19 test.
International travel should remain restricted or shut down altogether. Those under 70 should be allowed to go back to work to get the economy running again. Those 70 and older should self-isolate. This is for their protection. I'm not saying this should start immediately. Yet, we have to pick a point on the downslope of the virus's downslope.
Yeah, I think vanities belong in chat. Not news. It clutters up the forum.
If we have preventative measures we should be back at work.
It depends ...
It’s time to be sensible. I agree.
There’s now a 45 minute test.
The curve is curving. We will get through this. After all is said and done life in America will go on but we shall NEVER,EVER forget what the American left,#NeverTrump and the Chicoms have done. Let’s not forget government sux.
Trump’s our leader and he is leading. Stop the nonsense.
People 55 & younger in good health should go back to normal life.
It would make more sense for govt. to pay old people or those who are not well to isolate themselves for a month or so than to tank the entire economy.
Here’s what I have - similar but better IMO, followed by a comparison between commons sense vs. panic measures.
“Follow the South Korean Model to Defeat the Coronavirus
“The healthy need to go on living. We need to keep commerce going. Someone has to pay the bills and taxes, or our nation will be in ruins — even if we beat this monster.
“[According to] Dr. Mehmet Oz, a brilliant, breath-of-fresh-air guest on [Wayne Allyn Root’s] national radio show, that this is almost exactly the plan carried out in South Korea. The sick and at-risk were quarantined. Everyone else went to work. No businesses were closed. No economy was shut down. Now there’s under 100 dead in a country of 51 million. And they still have their economy and jobs.
“[S]tudy the South Korean model. Let’s not ruin the greatest country and economy in world history. The business of America is business. Let’s get back to it — while we protect the most vulnerable and fight this terrible virus with everything we’ve got.”
That includes letting healthy 70-year-olds live their lives, but maybe with regular testing.
https://townhall.com/…/mr-president-follow-the-south-korean…;
Case in point: AZ Republican Governor Ducey’s “State of Emergency” Requirements vs. NM Democrat Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham’s “State of Emergency” Requirements
AZ Republican Governor Ducey’s “State of Emergency” Requirements:
- Requires insurance companies and health plans to cover out of network providers, including out of plan laboratories and telemedicine providers.
- Waives all copays, coinsurance, and deductibles for consumers related to COVID-19 diagnostic testing and decreases co-pays for telemedicine visits.
- Implements consumer protections, including prohibiting price-gouging on COVID-19 of diagnosis and treatment-related services.
- Requires symptom checks of healthcare workers and visitors at skilled nursing facilities, nursing homes, and assisted living facilities.
Now for NM Democrat Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham’s “State of Emergency” Requirements:
- Restaurants, bars, breweries, eateries and other food establishments must close to dine-in customers; take-out and home delivery are permitted
- Indoor shopping malls must close
- Recreational facilities, health clubs and resort spas must close
- Theaters must close, including movie theaters
- Flea markets must close
- Typical business environments that are not engaged in the provision of an essential service should limit operations to the greatest extent possible and minimize employee contact.
“Typical business environments” are defined as businesses, governmental organizations, political subdivisions and other entities engaged in commercial, industrial, charitable or professional activities.
- Hotels, motels and other places of lodging shall not operate at more than 50 percent of maximum occupancy. This restriction does not apply to operations providing lodging to health care workers who are engaged in the provision of care to New Mexico residents or those businesses providing temporary housing to individuals employed and working in New Mexico.
Grsiahm is on track to putting NM businesses, already struggling, out of business. The comparison is between AZ Governor’s common sense steps and NM Governor’s panic.
You are on the right track. I consider the trade off between damage to the economy and Coronavirus fatalities to be a Classic Triage.
Like it or not the time will come, most likely in weeks at the most, where we will have to make the choice of which of these priorities must take precedent. A tough decision. But inevitable.
If the decision is made to minimize damage to the economy it will be back to work and open the stores. To minimize or at least delay fatalities it will mean a continuation of the current social distancing measures.
“Those under 70 should be allowed to go back to work to get the economy running again. Those 70 and older should self-isolate.”
That is the obstacle; we are delivering groceries to an isolated older relative (who has opted not to join us, since a couple of us are still exposed by working). She is concerned she’ll contract something from not just interaction, but the packages.
It can’t disappear if not given a chance; bouncing it around among younger, healthier people doesn’t seem practical. I have issues with shutting everything down, but leaving businesses open - while you openly observe co-workers ignoring common sense - is very disturbing. I’m working remotely and I hate it, but wouldn’t be thrilled to return to an office with low-IQ people. I also have many co-workers over 60; don’t think they’re safe either.
Key word, minimize.
See my tagline.
The virus can live 24 hours on cardboard, 2-3 days on plastic or metal. So for food deliveries—put them in your fridge with gloved hands, and let them sit for a few days?
Most transmission is person-to-person.
Some people show poor judgement. How many of us have relatives partying in NOLA or Florida? How many of us have relatives on cruise ships? I’ve got a relative stuck on a cruise ship in Chile. What was he thinking?
I’ve got a buddy who is sick right now. It could or could not be Corona. His job puts him in contact with new people all day, every day.
He’s going to work all week. His whole office is sick. After that he’s driving to Orlando to spend the weekend with his squeeze.
I wonder if she knows that he’s a biological bomb set to arrive at her door in 6 days.
Some people (waitresses, bartendenders, sales clerks, etc) have been reduced to $0 income. Many of these same people have very little savings, that’s just how it goes. So how long can we ask them to shelter in place with no money to make the rent, pay the electric bill, or buy food? When does a real no-kidding panic break out for those people?
Over at WorldOMeters, their charts for the USA showed a hint of the curve flattening as hoped.
Sure - I watched idiots cluster needlessly by the coffee to gossip (in a small space), and had some jackass sneezing all over his desk before bringing papers over to me. Disgusting; thankfully, he won’t be in if they open up to essential employees.
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