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Corona Virus Daily Thread #47 COVID-19 4/21/2020
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Posted on 04/21/2020 4:53:48 AM PDT by RaceBannon

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To: RummyChick

Sad really. I have no doubt that some politicians are using it as a political ploy. “Never let a crisis go to waste.” That still doesn’t mean it isn’t a crisis. Or in some places, just warrants some extra diligence.

Obviously we can’t hide at home forever - but I hope that most folks will do whatever they can to be safe.

I see the images out of China and Ecuador. Easy to believe that they are fake or whatever. I think some other poster awhile ago said that actual images of dying people or body bags in U.S. hospitals is what some people need to realize this isn’t just a hoax. But I’m glad we are too civilized for that.

Maybe this family’s pleas will resonate with some.


21 posted on 04/21/2020 6:13:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: 21twelve

Case counts US - 788k cases, 42,098 fatalities as of April 21, 2020 at 5:41 am (FluTrackers)

Alaska: 9
Alabama: 113
Arizona: 187
Arkansas: 42
California: 1,227
Colorado: 449
Connecticut: 1,331
Delaware: 72
District of Columbia: 105
Florida: 823
Georgia: 775
Guam: 5
Hawaii: 10
Idaho: 48
Illinois: 1,349
Indiana: 569
Iowa: 79
Kansas: 100
Kentucky: 154
Louisiana: 1,328
Maine: 35
Maryland: 582
Massachusetts: 1,809
Michigan: 2,468
Minnesota:143
Mississippi: 169
Missouri: 214
Montana: 10
Navajo Nation: 45
Nebraska: 33
Nevada: 158
New Hampshire: 42
New Jersey: 4,377
New Mexico: 58
New York: 18,776
North Carolina: 179
North Dakota: 13
Northern Marianas Islands: 2
Ohio: 509
Oklahoma: 143
Oregon: 75
Puerto Rico: 63
Pennsylvania: 1,204
Rhode Island: 155
South Carolina: 124
South Dakota: 7
Tennessee: 152
Texas: 495
US Virgin Islands: 3
Utah: 28
Vermont: 38
Virginia: 300
Washington: 657
West Virginia: 26
Wisconsin: 230
Wyoming: 2

Total 42,098

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/826435-case-counts-us-788k-cases-42-098-fatalities-as-of-april-21-2020?p=852061#post852061


22 posted on 04/21/2020 6:14:53 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

According to The Star, five such patients in Sabah’s Sandakan and Kinabatangan tested positive for Covid-19 just two days after recovering from the virus.

On April 18, the state government had said that 35 patients in these areas were recovered. This number was revised two days later, The Star said.

According to the new website, the Sabah Health Department later confirmed that patients who were declared recovered had tested negative in two Covid-19 tests.

However, the five patients later tested positive again.

But this is not a unique situation to Malaysia. On April 19, CNN reported that 179 recovered patients in South Korea later tested positive for Covid-19 again.

https://www.businessinsider.my/5-covid-19-patients-in-sabah-who-were-previously-declared-recovered-have-tested-positive-again-the-star


23 posted on 04/21/2020 6:27:39 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: cgbg

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/prime-minister-lee-hsien-loong-to-address-nation-on-covid-19-situation-at-5pm

You’d think Singapore would have figured out by now that it’s just the flu.


24 posted on 04/21/2020 6:29:19 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 21twelve

Doc on the front line

https://twitter.com/DrSamGirgis

Sam Girgis, MD
@DrSamGirgis
· Apr 18
These #COVID19 treatments appear to help patients:
1. Proning to improve hypoxia & prevent intubation
2. HCQ/Zpak/Zinc if used early otherwise useless
3. Remdesivir
4. IL6 inhibition (we use Tocilizumab & Sarilumab)
***This is our experience but more studies are needed
#SARSCoV2


25 posted on 04/21/2020 6:31:02 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

Sam Girgis, MD
@DrSamGirgis
·
12h
Almost half of #SARSCoV2 transmission occurs before symptoms are present... #COVID19
READ: “Temporal dynamics in viral shedding and transmissibility of COVID-19”


26 posted on 04/21/2020 6:31:35 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: 21twelve

The solution will deteriorate over time, when exposed to open air and light. Based on smell alone I’d say that even after a week it is still pretty strong though.

I’d mix it every few days to a week. We keep it under the sink in the dark.

When changing out the pump sprayer, I use the old mixture as weed killer around the yard. Works great.

Read gallon jug storage instructions...dark, cool area, call sealed tightly. At full strength, 10% bleach is corrosive and the fumes will cause oxidation of metals. Don’t store it near the Harley =o)


27 posted on 04/21/2020 6:34:19 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: RummyChick

28 posted on 04/21/2020 6:39:25 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

why should you wear a mask???...CDC told you not to..Surgeon General told you it was useless..flubros said dont worry..its just the flu no mask needed

but early early days a Dr here said you need to lessen the viral load...yep..it made sense. i wish I could remember his name. He was telling the flubros why you would worry and why it wasnt like the flu


Sotirios Kassapidis
@icedoc61
·
Apr 19
Agreed with all the above have been using prednisone also but less now.
We anticoagulate everyone. Plasma seems to help but all protocols work best with low viral load. Dialysis and Echmo seems to increase mortality at times.testing is the critical issue.
#COVID19


29 posted on 04/21/2020 6:44:59 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick
ice9 @__ice9 It will likely be a useful one, though. EIDD-2801 is an orally-available nucleotide analogue, similar to remdesivir. Based on in vitro results, it looks like the viral exoribonuclease can't rip it out the way it does to ribavirin. It will likely work.https://www.pids.org/images/docs/Medicine_Grand_Rounds_V2.pdf …
30 posted on 04/21/2020 6:53:50 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: LilFarmer

RUSSIA
RUSSIA OVER 50 000

Number of infections in Russia rises above 50,000...

The Russian Crisis Center reports that a total of 5,642 new corona infections were detected in the last 24 hours.

Bringing the total number of infections to 52,763. The growth was therefore greater than Monday. In the past 24 hours, 51 Covid-19 patients died in Russia. There are now 456 people in that country who have succumbed to the virus. The number of corona cases in Russia has risen sharply in recent days.

HLN (Dutch Belgian paper)

https://www.hln.be/nieuws/buitenland/live-aantal-nieuwe-ziekenhuisopnames-duikt-onder-200-volgende-week-duidelijkheid-over-bezoek-in-woonzorgcentra~af005238


31 posted on 04/21/2020 6:59:15 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer; All

Has anyone posted an updated graph of major countries (top 20 at most) daily (new) fatalities, recently?

I looked at a few, mostly Euro countries that got hit a little earlier than the US, and my impression is that the daily fatalities numbers do not fall off rapidly - that is, not in “bell curve” fashion. (Actually, one country’s curve was bell shaped, but I don’t recall which.) UK (3-day average) was still going UP, yesterday, IIRC.

Seen as a group, the curves would be useful. It’d also be useful to note any easing of restrictions if such has occurred in these countries.*

The slow decline in fatalities in the face of continued “lockdowns” (I believe?) in countries that are ahead of us is worrisome. With the US already over 42k fatalities, and gradually reopening, I could see us still reaching nearly 80k fatalities by June 1. That may be a price we just have to pay - this country cannot stay locked down, or even 50% staying home, much longer.

*Incidentally, a friend in Norway reports restrictions being eased there, however, I do not believe Norway was ever hit hard. They have only 182 fatalities out of a population of 5.368 million people. I would not be surprised if they have fewer CV + flu deaths in the last month than they would have had if everything was “normal” with flu taking it’s typical toll. What’d they do right?


32 posted on 04/21/2020 6:59:36 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: RummyChick

even dummies (non scientists) here could have figured this out long ago

Martin McKee
@martinmckee
· Apr 18
I’m now convinced we need to look at severe #COVID19 as disease with 3 overlapping & connected elements- respiratory, cardiovascular, immunological- with ACE playing a key role. This is an excellent review: https://ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.120.047549
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33 posted on 04/21/2020 7:00:33 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/wuhan-doctors-wake-fighting-virus-find-skin-changed-colour-12586039/
34 posted on 04/21/2020 7:02:26 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: LilFarmer; Jane Long

Weird and creepy - supposedly in Texas

https://twitter.com/Arc_Unreal/status/1252291556306010117?s=20


35 posted on 04/21/2020 7:03:56 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: RummyChick

Uh, hair looks a little different. Especially on the right. Must be the National Enquirer of China.


36 posted on 04/21/2020 7:06:18 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: cgbg

Thanks. That’s the one I keep an eye on. The CR vs Sweden stats.


37 posted on 04/21/2020 7:06:46 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: crusty old prospector

It’s a real story

You can blame it on Chinese propaganda if not true


38 posted on 04/21/2020 7:08:24 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RaceBannon; null and void

Thanks to both of you :-)


39 posted on 04/21/2020 7:10:56 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: LilFarmer

supposedly from 2016


40 posted on 04/21/2020 7:12:33 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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