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Why Existing Airbus A380s Won’t Be Converted To Freighters
Simple Flying ^ | 21 April 2020 | Nicholas Cummins

Posted on 04/22/2020 3:00:39 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Airbus A380 has all the prerequisites for cargo conversions on paper. However, the aircraft is too heavy and too costly to operate compared to other cargo aircraft conversions. This points to a single destiny for the type; ending up in an aircraft graveyard.

On paper, the A380 would make an excellent cargo aircraft.

Alas, there are some flaws in the A380 design when it comes to cargo.

The first is how heavy the A380 is. Because the A380 has a heavier empty weight than the competitive Boeing 747-8F cargo carrier, it actually costs more to get the aircraft in the air. In practice, this means that despite having more room onboard, the A380 would hit its maximum carrying weight before the entire volume was filled up, leaving plenty of extra empty room onboard. It would be too expensive for a cargo operator to run to make a profit.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: airbus; airbusa380; boeing; boeing7478f
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1 posted on 04/22/2020 3:00:39 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A white elephant. Charter services can use them to fly moojs into Saudi for hadj.


2 posted on 04/22/2020 3:07:02 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I guess nobody thought that the plane had a limited application for bot cargo and passengers.

There just are not that many places with that many people who want to go from one to another all at the same time on the same airplane.

Didn’t anybody ever think about this before they built the monster?


3 posted on 04/22/2020 3:13:46 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“First I looks at the purse.”


4 posted on 04/22/2020 3:17:33 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Put giant electric motors on it and fill the extra space with batteries.


5 posted on 04/22/2020 3:21:21 PM PDT by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: Sequoyah101

I guess nobody thought that the plane had a limited application for bot cargo and passengers.

...

Airbus made a big bet that hub airports would run out of landing slots.

Boeing made the bet that airlines and their passengers would rather fly smaller aircraft point to point.


6 posted on 04/22/2020 3:32:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Big enough to load big cargo but no entry unless they go all 747 entry style.


7 posted on 04/22/2020 3:43:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Take off the wings and refurb them into upscale living.


8 posted on 04/22/2020 3:46:05 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

“Take off the wings and refurb them into upscale living.”

Zoning laws would rule that out within a hundred miles from any airport that could land it.


9 posted on 04/22/2020 3:52:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Rummyfan

One good thing about the Wuhanic Plague. Emirates and Etihad, two government funded and subsidized airlines from the UAE got absolutely hammered. My give a damn is busted.


10 posted on 04/22/2020 4:08:25 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the parish country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_g8ur9aTwM


11 posted on 04/22/2020 4:23:46 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Sequoyah101

I am mostly convinced that that Airbus built the A380 just so they could say they built one better than the 747. It’s economics are only useful on a narrow select set of routes and will be eventually overwhelmed by the newest 777 models and A350.


12 posted on 04/22/2020 4:40:19 PM PDT by utahb52
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To: mountn man

A shower while you fly, oh my!

Only 20k per. YIKES!

But still cool.


13 posted on 04/22/2020 5:04:36 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Frenchie made a big mistake....... Wee Wee Wee.....


14 posted on 04/22/2020 5:27:58 PM PDT by ncfool (Impeachment: The Democrat campaign to re-elect Trump - Keep America Great 2020)
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“Frenchie made a big mistake...”

A mistake, probably but how many people were employed by A380 design and manufacturing?

They may have been on the dole the whole time, perhaps remaining for a lifetime...


15 posted on 04/22/2020 5:34:49 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The A380 is a magnificent passenger airplane.

Quiet, spacious, and smooth. Really enjoyed flying on them.

It was never intended for air freight.

The Boeing planes 777 and 787 were designed with a dual-use as air freight in mind. They are much noisier (engine and passing air) and not as smooth in flight.


16 posted on 04/22/2020 5:42:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My Dad, who passed away at 88 this January, used to sing that song to me when I was little. I think it’s called “Too Fat Polka”.


17 posted on 04/22/2020 6:06:35 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

I remembered it from I was a kid.

Too Fat Polka

Here’s a silly ditty,
You can sing it right away
Now, here is what you say
So sing it while you may
Here’s a silly jingle,
You can sing it night or noon
Here’s the words, that’s all you need
‘Cause I just sang the tune:
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She’s too fat for me
She’s too fat for me...
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18 posted on 04/22/2020 6:32:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

ORD to HKG in June is $11.2K

In July $9.3k

ORD to DXB is 777
DXB to HKG is A380

If you’re flying from Frankfurt to Hong Kong, both legs (r/t) are A380 cost is $4318

My favorite flight review of Emirates A380 first class w/ DXB lounge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t07Di1mF9Q&t=656s

If you’re looking to fly somewhere, and want to find the cheapest flights, airlines and dates

http://matrix.itasoftware.com/


19 posted on 04/22/2020 8:05:28 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Oops, that wasn’t A380, that was 777

Here is A380 Suite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fScCixoBOo


20 posted on 04/22/2020 8:09:16 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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